Please use short identifiers in your examples. Long hashes make this
harder to parse and discuss.
It seems unwieldy to have an extensive pattern (like "quotation=STRING") in
the URL itself.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 1:10 AM Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
Thad,
Thank you for bringing up quotations. I’m thinking about how best to
update the Wikifact project proposal with some new content and discussion
about quotations, including hyperlinks to
https://schema.org/Quotation
and Wikidata’s quotation <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1683>,
and including indication of scenarios or examples where quotations are part
of the fact basis.
With regard to “recursive constructability” or “the reification of
statements so that they can be used as arguments”, resembling said(Douglas_Adams,
ate(Douglas_Adams, apple)), this could resemble, for a URL-based syntax,
via use of the URL encoding (or percent-encoding):
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
<https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/?author=Q42"ation=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikifact.org%2Fpatterns%2F293FCD5D-27A7-498A-81C3-C78EF0F9D9A2%3Fagent%3DQ42%26patient%3DQ89>
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said that he ate an
apple.”
and/or could resemble:
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
or
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said
{33DCF305-3A4D-4024-9AD7-CCB1A29054E2}.”
Best regards,
Adam
*From: *Thad Guidry <thadguidry(a)gmail.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:21 PM
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*Subject: *Re: [Abstract-wikipedia] URL-addressable statements and
clusters of statements
*SJ* - Rephrasing... reminds me of some of the discussion we had within
Schema.org where I pushed for Quotation often.
https://schema.org/Quotation where we didn't put much work into helping
connect more dots, but still it's there.
Quotations often tie into facts, "he said/she said", dispute resolution,
etc.
And where it seems Wikidata's *quotation*
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1683> property might also
somehow play a part in your proposal.
*Adam* - I think it would be nice to have a concrete example of some
clusters where a quotation is part of the fact basis.
Thad
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/
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