Kudos to the community and WMF teams for creating this outstanding document!
I love the brevity, clarity -- and yes, elegance -- of your human-readable summary.
I'm amazed that you managed to fit our most important goals, rights and responsibilities into just 12 bullet points.
It's an inspiring achievement, which I will seek to emulate in my own work.
Well done, everybody!
Fabrice
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Fabrice Florin
Product Manager,
Editor Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6827 work
fflorin(a)wikimedia.org
On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:00 AM, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:43:04 -0700
> From: Philippe Beaudette <philippe(a)wikimedia.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use
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> Birgitte, Andrew, thank you for your kind words. True credit on this one
> goes to Maggie, Geoff, and the community members who worked countless hours
> with them and discussed in great detail almost every word of the thing. I
> think everyone involved would tell you that it was a thoughtful,
> deliberative, and truly exhausting process.... but it was amazing in its
> collegiality in the final product.
>
> I'm proud to be part of the team that worked on this, but my role was
> small... my hat is off to Maggie, Geoff, and all the others who
> participated (below, I have listed everyone with more than 15 edits to the
> talk page where it was developed.)
>
>
> Community Members with more than 15 edits to the Talk page:
>
> Geoffbrigham
> Mdennis (WMF)
> WhatamIdoing
> Filceolaire
> FT2
> Peteforsyth
> Michaeldsuarez
> Seth Finkelstein
> Angel54 5
> Seb az86556
> WereSpielChequers
> Steven (WMF)
> Rosenkohl
> Esetzer
> Wnt
> Teofilo
> Philippe (WMF)
> John Vandenberg
> Danhash
> Rich Farmbrough
> Dcoetzee
> 62.140.210.130
> ?????? ?????
>
>
> ___________________
> Philippe Beaudette
> Director, Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> 415-839-6885, x 6643
>
> philippe(a)wikimedia.org
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, <Birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette
>>> <philippe(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> As you may be aware, Wikimedia has updated its Terms of Use. This
>> updated
>>>> version will become effective on May 25, 2012, and can be reviewed
>>>> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use_%282012%29/en
>>> .[1]
>>>> A short overview of some of the changes is set out
>>>> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/New_Terms_of_use>.
>>>> [2]
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>
>>> Terms of use are boring, and most of us are pretty jaded by how
>>> impenetrable, legalistic and, well, awful, most terms of use are on the
>>> internet.
>>>
>>> I want to congratulate you and your department on NOT doing this. The new
>>> terms of use are written in clear English, well set out, and cover what
>>> seem to be the appropriate bases without being overly verbose and
>> cautious.
>>>
>>> Well done, Philippe, Geoff, and everyone else.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am also impressed. It actually ends up being the best one piece
>> introduction to what Wikimedia *is* that I have ever read. A lot of
>> thought and consideration were soundly invested in that document. Clarity
>> on that level is HARD, but well worth the effort. I also am thinking that
>> the staff have just set a rather high bar for the board. Imagine if all
>> board resolutions were written with as just as much focus on clarity and as
>> on circumspection. These terms of use show it is possible.
>>
>> Birgitte SB
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Gayle Young, the Wikimedia Foundation's Chief Talent and Culture Officer,
will be our guest for IRC office hours on Tuesday, May 1, at 17:00 UTC.
Gayle is a ridiculously smart lady, who has a deep interest in
organizational development; some members of local chapters met her in
Berlin. This should be a really interesting session... I strongly
encourage anyone interested in that topic - or who has an interest in the
HR/personnel matters of the Foundation - to attend.
Office hours will be in #wikimedia-office on the freenode IRC network.
More details and time conversions can be found at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
See you there. :)
pb
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Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe(a)wikimedia.org
There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and
here "drastic" is an understatement). Not only have they removed
the language that would have made Wikimedia look like right
prat -- hooray...ish -- but the emphasis on the agreement between
large scale traffic sites giving their userinformation over in a
quid pro quo fashion, has shifted towards language enabling
them to deputise (security clearances in an expedited fashion) small
time hacker collectives to conduct activities which might or might not
be illegal, as long as it is for the good of the country, and as long as
they can be relied to keep their mouths shut.
At this point I think *any* action by Wikimedia would be misinterpreted.
There is no-longer any text there that would affect Wikimedia directly.
There may be an argument that the bill as a whole is still detrimental
to the internet as a whole and to the United States economy, and by
that route to Wikimedia. But that is such an involved chain, that we
would certainly be accused of being political, if Wikimedia protested
in any shape or form, on those grounds.
Assuming the draft prevails of course. That is a gamble. I think the
backdoor option we have is to pressure Obama to Veto the bill. He
needs a win against Congress, and afte the SOPA affair this could
well be his, He certainly could activate all the people who phoned
in on the SOPA thing, if he wants to.
--
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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
Hi can anyone point me to a write up of the the test plan for this
morning's experiment on Wikipedia? Having been logged off about ten times
I've worked out that you get logged out the first two times you change page.
It will be interesting to see how many editors revert to IP editing.
WSC
Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could
use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a
compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can
spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or
schools on board.
Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign. It's really a
very sexy project. We could frame it as something universal: "free
access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks."
This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been
encouraging people to link to it in their posts.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero
SJ
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Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
Hi everyone,
This Friday, May 4th, at 20:30 UTC the new editor engagement experiments
team will be hosting our first IRC office hours. In case you missed it, Sue
announced the creation of the team as a subset of the engineering and
product department back in March.[1]
Though we're still in the process of hiring a designer and developers,
we've already started an experiment or two,[2] which we'll be talking
about. More importantly, we're interested in discussing some of our future
ideas and how interested community members would like to see things set up
so they can contribute to experiments. In prep for that discussion, I'd
highly encourage everyone to read the FAQ we've put up and check out the
talk page with some community suggestions already rolling in.[3]
I know "editor engagement" can sound like a somewhat meaningless piece of
jargon, and something that may be of little interest to everyday
Wikimedians. But as an example and a small plug for why you should attend,
our first experiment is relevant to current changes in the software...
watchlist emails were recently enabled for all projects, and in the few
weeks prior to that, we've started testing what happens when you email
lapsed Wikipedians inviting them to come back and check their watchlist.
As usual, documentation on office hours is on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
1. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/276223
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Engagement_Experiments
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_engagement_experiments
Thanks, and hopefully we'll see you Friday!
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Steven Walling
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
Kozuch,
Others have responded to many of your other points. I just wanted to
help with two things:
On 04/25/2012 02:49 PM, Jan Kučera wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yes, there surely were comments from developers... that is positive.
> But the result as general is still nothing at all (the feature is not
> even nearing deployment).
The reason that feature is not moving towards deployment is because of
the issues that the other developers explained in their Bugzilla
comments. Can you help by asking Robert Horlings & Gérard de Smaele to
respond to those comments? I have tried to contact them but haven't
heard any response.
> I am not a dev and thus can not contribute any code.
>
> Kozuch
We welcome the contributions of non-developers to the software
development process! For example, you can:
* help test the software and file bug reports (example:
http://www.mkltesthead.com/2012/04/weekend-testing-on-march-5th-something.h…
)
* help document the current state of engineering activity so everyone's
more aware of what's happening:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_…
* join the wikitech-ambassadors list to help communicate between your
wiki communities and WMF about upcoming and desired changes:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
And I see you're already on the Bug Squad to help monitor new incoming
bug reports and check whether old ones are still valid:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Bug_Squad Thank you!
Thanks.
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Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
Hi.
A few months ago I created "Template:Contribute" at
wikimediafoundation.org.[1] It displays above the edit window whenever a
logged out user presses the "Contribute" (previously "Edit") tab.
There were some concerns that this message was still too obscure, so I've
now implemented a "namespace notice" via a MediaWiki gadget. When viewing
any page in the Talk namespace, you'll now see the contents of
"Template:Contribute" below the page title. The relevant code can be found
here.[2]
MZMcBride
[1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:Contribute
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-NamespaceNotice.js
Hi all,
Wikimedia Norway (WMNO) had its annual assembly last Thursday. See
http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us for a short English presentation of
the newly elected board.
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Best regards,
Kjetil Ree (user:kjetil_r)
Wikimedia Norway