Hi James (just back from holiday - catching up),<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>The strong preference for using third-party non-free content (images, text) is always to request a free copy, ie by asking the copyright holder to relicence the content (not simply ask for permission for use on a single project, as this is not free enough). Fair use is a cop-out, and used (only by some projects) as a pragmatic (some would argue "defeatist") response to virulent copyright protection in place. I would encourage you to contact the copyright holder(s) and request for a free copy of content - there is a similar sample letter at: <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Permission_Letter_Samples">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Permission_Letter_Samples</a> - though I would stress that the response needs to be sent to the following address: <<a href="mailto:permissions@wikimedia.org">permissions@wikimedia.org</a>>. In fact, it is a good idea to have someone watching the permissions queue for this - I have access, so I could send this and similar types of requests myself. We could also set up a page on Wikiversity where people could add requests, and which would be monitored by a group of people with OTRS access (OTRS is the mailing system that Wikimedia volunteers use). How about [[Wikiversity:OTRS requests]]?</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Cormac<br><br></div><div>PS: Regarding odg formats, we can always allow for more file types to be uploaded to Wikiversity - I don't know why Commons doesn't accept this format.</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:09 PM, James Neill <<a href="mailto:lists@wilderdom.com">lists@wilderdom.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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I've found some good reading on this:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Fair_use" target="_blank">http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Fair_use</a> (needs improving)<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content</a><br>
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with a meaty discussion at:<br>
<a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Avoid_copyright_paranoia" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Avoid_copyright_paranoia</a><br>
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there are 10 policy requirements for fair use:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy_2" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy_2</a><br>
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In my example below, the two images in question may qualify for fair
use. I know of no free alternatives to the two images in question. I am
making enquiries, but currently don't have the technology/know-how to
create alternative free images (this is somewhat debatable - I could,
and eventually intend to, create open format, free alternatives). Since
they are diagrams, the text is disadvantaged without them. There does
not appear to be any commercial disadvantage caused by fair-use of the
images since they are available on public URLs.<br>
<br>
So, perhaps I could use these images under fair use.<br>
<br>
Alternatively, I could approach the authors and request permission.
Then usage could be possibly become far more free, which is more
desirable. So, I'm wondering, is there a proforma letter which can be
adapted for approaching copyright owners for giving permission for free
usage of their work?<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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Here's a specific example, which is prototypical of my situation/needs:<br>
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<a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Exploratory_factor_analysis/Lecture_notes#Conceptual_models" target="_blank">http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Exploratory_factor_analysis/Lecture_notes#Conceptual_models</a><br>
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In this section, I would to be able to show three images. At this
stage, however, I link to the first two images (because they are from
non-free sources) . For the third image I uploaded it to Wiki Commons
with CC Attribution (because I created it). However, I have only
uploaded a .png and I would like to also upload a .odg version so that
others can remix.<br>
<br>
Appreciate any advice.<br>
<br>
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James Neill wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font face="Courier New">what's the procedure to use if
i have an images from unknown sources which i wish to use in
wikiversity?<br>
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is it simply no go?<br>
<br>
or are there particular conditions under which it may be appropriate -
i seem to sometimes see images on wikipedia which are tagged to
indicate that there is no other option except to use that particular
image - how does this work?<br>
<br>
feel free to point me to reading - i just want to get clear guidelines
in my head<br>
<br>
i don't have any specific images in mind - each year i rework teaching
materials, i remove a few more proprietary images and add a few more
free images, but it is a gradual process to eventually get everything
fully free<br>
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