On Feb 25, 2014 12:55 AM, "Gryllida" <gryllida(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, at 5:29, Mark Holmquist wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 01:35:33AM +1100, Gryllida wrote:
> > ... With this in mind I would personally encourage heavy
collaboration of
all teams to build a framework which lets people script
the MediaWiki software including media viewer screen, log-in screens,
article creation screens / wizard, an interactive thingie for working with
templates [1] (taking an {{unblock}} request for example without having to
memorize the template syntax).
> > [1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Gryllida/Templates/Interactive
>
> Just one massive framework for *all* of that? Actually, it already
> exists [7]. What we should be asking for is more use of it by core and
> extensions, but we're already working on that, too [8].
>
> [7]
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw.hook
> [8]
Do you find that enough for contributors to develop interactive bits of
software
which are easy to maintain and share code with each-other? I don't.
[The bouncing between mailing lists is making this thread confusing]
Interactive templates (i.e. magic buttons on templates that edit wiki text
to change a parameter in the template to change its "state") is a rather
different type of thing than allowing js to (cleanly) hook into/extend
js-based extensions at fixed points. A single framework for both those
types of things does not make sense. (Unless you are talking on a generic
js library level). In your original email, you list 3 things which fall
into the hook category, followed by a fourth that could be interpreted as a
hook thing unless one reads the link carefully, which is why I think Mark
responded with "Hooks!". (Obviously that is just my intetpretation, I don't
speak for him, so he would have to clarify if this interpretation is
consistent with his views).
As it stands (i dont live in js land, correct me if I'm wrong), its widely
agreed having hooks for user-scripts to hook into js-based extensions like
upload wizard and other parts of mw is a good thing. Its not neccesarily
agreed that having support for magic wiki-text altering templates on the
mediawiki level is a good thing. As far as i am aware, nobody is currently
trying to make a framework for that use case on the mediawiki level (beyond
generic support for js and js abstractions for api access)
--bawolff