Hi Greg,
I guess you've looked into something else.
openZIM was never hosted on SourceForge, exists since Jan 2009 and its
source code has been since then available via our svn on
openzim.org (as
well as the documentation of the file format).
I was the one who blamed Linterweb to have used the open source Zeno
implementation (which was the basis of the openZIM foundation) in their
Okawix reader application without making the modified code available
online.
From a today's perspective my accusitions were
wrong - we had a lot of
discussion over several month conderning this and I talked
to Pascal
Martin from Linterweb about this over and over again when the code was
NOT available. But finally it has been released, so my statement about
the GPL violation is wrong (it was true for many months, though).
The only point left was to say that Okawix uses a modified Zeno-format
which is not a documented standard. That is why I consider it as being
"proprietary" as the goal of openZIM (supported by the Wikimedia
Foundation) is to have an open file format, so all data files can be
freely exchanged with any reader application.
Zeno evolved into ZIM and is much better than Zeno, has an active
developers base of many projects which use ZIM in their reader
applications.
openZIM provides a Free and open source implementation of the ZIM format
and is also the project where the standardisation work is being done. So
everyone interested in using ZIM or in making suggestions how to improve
it can file a bug or post to the openZIM mailinglist.
That is exactly what did not work out with Linterweb, which I was
refering to as "unable to colaborate". I am very happy to see that
changing.
I hope I could clarify some points now. I really don't want to go that
flaming on further, but I think happy news should be named here as well
as a counterweight to my earlier statements.
More information can be found here:
http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:96
http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:200908271434-Manuel_Schneider-…
http://openzim.org/
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_readers
/Manuel
Am 3.9.2009 schrieb "Gregory Maxwell" <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Gerard
Meijssen<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
I have read your mail and it does not address the point that I am making at
all. What you write is not relevant as it does not address the central
issue. The central issue is that you accuse another project of infringement
on the GPL and you assert that it is proprietary software.
count
Gerard, please stop harassing this person. It is a disgrace.
Some months ago I went looking for the zim format and reader tool and
was unable to find the source and concluded that it was proprietary. I
did not know that it was based on GPLed software or I would have been
making noise myself.
The sourceforge project has only existed since *May*. The code has
only ever been downloaded 63 times, twice by me and there are zero
packaged files released. The sourceforge page does not show up high in
google search. That the source is now released is a great thing, but
it would have been very easy to miss.
Making sure the incorrect statement were corrected is a good thing but
you and Siebrand are coming across as extremely hostile. I am not
even the target of your harassment and yet it makes my skin crawl.
Please discontinue it.
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