<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/26 Klaus Graf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:klausgraf@googlemail.com">klausgraf@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Roma locuta causa finita.<br></blockquote><div><br>I actually wrote this mail for understanding the issue, <br>
and know where did you discuss these things before. <br>
If you have links (like the one you gave me), I'd appreciate. <br>(and, I'm not sure that the WMF can be ragerded as Roma: if someone sued you, and the WMF didn't care, the cause would not be finished at all)<br>
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There is no need to discuss things which have been discussed enough.<br>
</blockquote><div>See above. I would like to have information and links to these discussion.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
If you have another position feel free to make an own project in<br>
Italia.<br></blockquote><div>Obviously, this is not the case. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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The NPG affair has changed NOTHING.<br></blockquote><div><br>Do you happen to know how that finished? <br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I am fairly sure that European law forbids copyrighting merely scans without originality. Italy has to respect this.<br></blockquote><div><br>Do you have any reference? THAT would be helpful. <br><br><br>Aubrey <br></div>
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Klaus Graf<br>
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2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni <<a href="mailto:zanni.andrea84@gmail.com">zanni.andrea84@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Thank you Klaus, I didn't know about that.<br>
> But what about the "NPG affair"?<br>
> <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat</a><br>
><br>
> I know that scans are mechanical reproduction of texts,<br>
> but I don't know all legislations could agree on this.<br>
> I'm fairly sure that the Italian law guarantees 20 years of copyright to the<br>
> creator of an "image" of any thing.<br>
> It probably guarantees the copyright of even the trascription of a text (I<br>
> interrogated a lawyer few years ago, he just confirmed the issue is unclear<br>
> and everyone is interpretating the law as preferred... )<br>
><br>
> Aubrey<br>
><br>
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> 2010/10/26 Klaus Graf <<a href="mailto:klausgraf@googlemail.com">klausgraf@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#The_position_of_the_WMF" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#The_position_of_the_WMF</a><br>
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>> Klaus Graf<br>
>><br>
>> 2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni <<a href="mailto:zanni.andrea84@gmail.com">zanni.andrea84@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> > Dear Wikisource community,<br>
>> > I want to a ask a question that surely have been raised before.<br>
>> > Unfortunately, I haven't find that in the archive of wikisource-l,<br>
>> > so I will ask you.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On what legal basis are we uploading Google Books (and Internet Archive,<br>
>> > and<br>
>> > Gallica) scans on Commons, putting the {{PD-Scan}} on those?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I remember endless discussions in it.source about these issues, with<br>
>> > contrasting opinions (both with reasons).<br>
>> > For example, if we are able to upload from Gallica to Commons and then<br>
>> > Wikisource, why the WM-Fr community<br>
>> > did have to make an agreement with the BnF? Am I understanding this<br>
>> > correctly? Was the material *donated*?<br>
>> > I know the texts are PD, but also the images?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I know this is a probably well known topic, I've just never read a<br>
>> > definitive clarification on this issue.<br>
>> > Thank you<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Aubrey<br>
>> ><br>
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