A few minutes ago I've received these two messages:<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org">bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org</a> <<a href="mailto:bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org">bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org
</a>><br>Date: May 6, 2007 4:12 PM<br>Subject: [Bug 6982] Request for setting up tamil wikisource site<br>To: <a href="mailto:lugusto@gmail.com">lugusto@gmail.com</a><br><br><a href="http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6982">
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6982</a><br><br><br><a href="mailto:river@attenuate.org">river@attenuate.org</a> changed:<br><br> What |Removed |Added<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br> CC| |river@<a href="http://attenuate.org">attenuate.org</a><br> Status|NEW |RESOLVED<br> Resolution| |WONTFIX
<br><br><br><br><br>------- Additional Comments From <a href="mailto:river@attenuate.org">river@attenuate.org</a> 2007-05-06 19:12 UTC -------<br>Tamil wikisource is undergoing discussion at langcom, <http://<br><a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Tamil_Wikisource">
meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Tamil_Wikisource</a>>. please<br>re-open this bug when a decision is reached to create it.<br><br>----<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org">
bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org</a> <<a href="mailto:bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org">bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org</a>><br>Date: May 6, 2007 4:01 PM<br>Subject: [Bug 7855] Creation of nds wikisource<br>To:
<a href="mailto:lugusto@gmail.com">lugusto@gmail.com</a><br><br><a href="http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7855">http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7855</a><br><br><br><a href="mailto:river@attenuate.org">
river@attenuate.org</a> changed:<br><br> What |Removed |Added<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> CC| |river@
<a href="http://attenuate.org">attenuate.org</a><br> Status|NEW |RESOLVED<br> Resolution| |WONTFIX<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/4/07,
<b class="gmail_sendername">jkbwiki</b> <<a href="mailto:jkbwiki@web.de">jkbwiki@web.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Just some remarks to the art of discussion and
decision here.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In March/April there were some mail concernig the
wikisource, the future of wikiosurce (multilingual, <a href="http://wikisource.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">wikisource.org</a>) and new
subdomains. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Although I work in <a href="http://wikisource.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">wikisource.org</a> since 2004 and
although I am an admin there since 2005, I saw and I read some points the first
time in my wiki life. There was no word of announcement or discussion of this
matter on the pages of the multilingual wikisource, never, although it concerns
this domain. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So, the proposals, that everything what has to do
with new subdomains should be put in the hands of somebody else, but not the
wikisource. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Nice. The multilingual wikisource did in the past
manage the creation of new subdomains, after we had a contact to the users
there. Now, there is a not nearly specified proposal, some incubation domain
will do. Fine. Fine, if it works.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">But doesn't seem to work. The discussion ended,
nobody concerns, nobody tries to do something. And the Tamil wikisource request
and another one are still waiting for a solution. Since months, since nearly one
year. Do you think that the users are so strong and so good prepared fot the
shit here, that they will wait another half a year and then start to work
again??? I am sure, we lost not only some users, but we lost two subdomains in
the last four weeks.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I tried to keep the domain of <a href="http://wikisource.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">wikisource.org</a>
running in the past, but now I must resignate. Some people announce some new
fine ideas, they take the competences away, without saying who will do it in the
future. I am not like to act there as a idiot, I am not one. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You will have to recognize, that such acting leads
to a loss of users and subdomains. You will have to recognize that the
wikisource subdomains have to learn something else than the wikipedia or
wictionary subdomains. Obviously, yaou have to recognize this in the
future.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">It is not a good feeling to me to write these
sentences after three years of wotking here, but the development of the WS did
hurt me.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">-jkb-</font></div>
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