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<P DIR=LTR ALIGN=JUSTIFY><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">As Andr</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">e Engels already made clear, neither the ISO code nor the SIL list can be taken for granted in all cases,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">regarding what we actually look for in their lists.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">He gave good examples, and so did</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Tim Starling. In fact, my opinion on this topic is, that we should use both the ISO and the SIL</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> when</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">we</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">re unsure again whether to allow a certain language or not.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">What were the 3 artificial languages on Ethnologue again? Esperanto, Interlingua and... Europanto or something, I don</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t remember. Well</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">, we have a Volapük Wikipedia, to which I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">and some others</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">even contribut</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">e</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">, from time</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">to time. Volapük is not included in the SIL</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">index</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> but</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">in the ISO codes. Th</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">d be a pro.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR ALIGN=JUSTIFY><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thus, if the language can be found in either the ISO or the SIL list, it has a right to exist.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">But w</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">e should</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">still</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">consider</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> each new language if there are enough contributors for it. Maybe 3 or 5 could be</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">enough. That would speak for Klingon as well</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">–</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">here</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">is an ISO code (tlh), there are</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">more than</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">just</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> 3 or 5 contributors</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">, and the vocabulary and grammar is large</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">enough</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> as well (a fact that in my opinion doesn</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t really apply for Sindarin/Quenya, for example). I</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> don</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">t know off-hand which other constructed languages could be found in the ISO codes</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> (too lazy to look it up now ;)),</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">but I doubt that there are more</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">„</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">fictional</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> languages besides Klingon.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR ALIGN=JUSTIFY><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">And Toki Pona is wiki-fied already</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">–</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> it</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">d be unfair to remove it now</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">, if it</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">s included in ISO/SIL or not.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR ALIGN=JUSTIFY><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Okay, I think you understand my point.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR ALIGN=JUSTIFY><SPAN LANG="de"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">- André</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="de"></SPAN></P>
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