<P>MarderIII: should people pronounce the names of foreign places in the foreign manner?<BR>Bakunin 18: Er, as they are pronounced by their populations?<BR>MarderIII: yes<BR>Bakunin 18: I think so<BR>MarderIII: wikipedia banned me over that question<BR>MarderIII: i really fucking hate people right now<BR>Bakunin 18: You can't switch IPs?<BR>MarderIII: i can <BR>MarderIII: i already did it once<BR>MarderIII: i found some good info on the Taino<BR>MarderIII: and so i added it<BR>MarderIII: and then some troll went and deleted it because I was banned and not allowed to contribute<BR>Bakunin 18: That's... incredibly stupid.<BR>MarderIII: they are also threatning to ban other people who don't think I was so uncontrollab<BR>MarderIII: e<BR>Bakunin 18: Is there not some head admin you can talk to?<BR>MarderIII: he is very mad at me<BR>Bakunin 18: Oh</P>
<P>MarderIII: should people pronounce the names of foreign places in the foreign manner?<BR>opium4themasses: hrm<BR>opium4themasses: well, it would be best if they did<BR>opium4themasses: well no...<BR>MarderIII: wikipedia banned me over the question<BR>opium4themasses: erg?<BR>MarderIII: I came to the conclusion that it boiled down to a latent racism from not considering the other culture's name to have any real tangible value in excess of the outsiders name<BR>opium4themasses: hrm, maybe not racism<BR>opium4themasses: more just egocentric<BR>MarderIII: I believe names are very important <BR>MarderIII: egocentrism is racism I believe<BR>opium4themasses: it's more than just racism</P>
<P>MarderIII: should people pronounce the names of foreign places in the foreign manner?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: no<BR>MarderIII: why not?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: because you are not in the foreign place<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: i have someone at work mad at me<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: someone in brazil<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: the program puts Brazil at the top of their report<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: however in Brazil they spell Brazil like this Brasil<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: they don't like that i spell brazil the correct way in the us<BR>MarderIII: So shouldnt we start saying Brasil?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: but if i spell it brasil then people in the us will think i spelled it wrong<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: no<BR>MarderIII: they are just uneducated though<BR>MarderIII: its Brasil<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: does germany call germany germany<BR>MarderIII: Brazil is just a mistake that a foreigner made<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: or deustchland<BR>MarderIII: Deutschland<BR>MarderIII: I want to go to Deutschland<BR>MarderIII: not Germany<BR>MarderIII: Germany is an american tourist spot<BR>MarderIII: Deutschland is a real place<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: i am sure the germans do not call the united states the united states<BR>MarderIII: who are we to say what germans should do<BR>MarderIII: we need to focus on us<BR>MarderIII: and set a good example<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: yet it is proper to pronounce people's names as they pronounce them in their home country<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: so perhaps proper names should be pronounced as the local people wish them to be pronounced<BR>MarderIII: I agree<BR>MarderIII: and of course there are difficult questions<BR>MarderIII: like what should Asia be called?<BR>MarderIII: I for one, am not particular, as to whether we refer to it in Chinese or Vietnamese<BR>MarderIII: but surely we should use an Asian language<BR>MarderIII: and as Chinese are the most populous<BR>MarderIII: I would much rather use the Chinese name for Asia<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: now i disagree<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: you should call everything whatever your local language calls it<BR>MarderIII: why?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: it is a different language<BR>MarderIII: why should that matter?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: your language can call it whatever it deems proper<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: it is language<BR>MarderIII: thats a good point<BR>MarderIII: languages are code<BR>MarderIII: but what about names?<BR>MarderIII: personal names?<BR>Franz[name omitted for privacy reasons]: they should be as the person call themselves<BR>MarderIII: what about Christopher Columbus<BR>MarderIII: he never called himself such</P>
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