[Wikipedia-l] New request for Cantonese Wikipedia: vote at 29-6

[Andrew Lih]

Angela is right - the Proposal_for_Sinitic_linguistic_policy failed to
make an open call to the ZH community for their opinion.

Due diligence has not been performed. My suggestions from July:

http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-July/041203.html
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-July/041207.html

were not heeded. The voting page does not have complete background
materials;  nor was the page translated into Chinese, the main
relevant community; nor was the announcement made to wikizh-l or the
main zh.wikipedia.org community pages.

Personal differences aside, the organizer of a vote, as an implicit
"overseer," should show restraint in terms of commenting on individual
votes and as a result, influencing the votes on the page.

One reason the final (sixth) GNAA VfD was accepted after several
controversial rounds of voting was because of how professionally the
vote was administered. We should learn from that.

-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)


On 9/6/05, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/5/05, Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:
> 
> > I found our policy with regards to Chinese languages stranger and
> > stranger. We do not do this if we open another Germanic or Romanic
> > language pedia!
> 
> It's not policy. There is no policy for creating new languages (just a
> draft one at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_policy_for_wikis_in_new_languages>).
> I was just giving my opinion, and I feel that the relevant communities
> should be told about any language proposals, not only Sinetic ones. If
> some dialect of English were proposed, it would be very unfair to try
> to hide that from the existing English language communities within
> Wikimedia.
> 
> Angela.
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