Gerard is not realising what I am saying.
There are indeed 3 different Frisian languages. Gerard believes I am
talking about the various Frisian and Westfries (?) dialects of the
Netherlands, but I am not. I am speaking of West Frisian (the Frisian
of the Netherlands), which it is called by experts in books, on
websites, and in conversation, vs. East Frisian (the Frisian of
Saterland in Germany), vs. North Frisian (the Frisian of Nordfriesland
in Germany).
I don't think Gerard realises that the latter two exist, and that the
reason "West Frisian" is used by experts to refer to what most Dutch
people simply call Fries ("Frisian") is because there are two
different "Frisian" languages from which it must be differentiated.
Mark
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 00:01:47 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi Till,
Fries, is a hot topic on the nl:wikipedia. We have had our fair share of
skirmishes there. I have complained that what some call West Frisian is
not West Frisian at all. It is Frisian. The history of the Frisians is a
bit more complicated than most people know and many have decided to call
Frisian proper all kind of names, including Westerlauwers Fries and West
Frisian.
Westfries is something seperate. It was spoken in what is now Noord
Holland and practically nobody speaks it anymore. Node is basically
repeating what he reads in books. I live in this area called
Westfriesland, I even have family coming from Friesland proper. Node
decides that I do not know what I am talking about which is fine.
Frisian is not three varieties like Node says. In
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fries_%28taal%29 you may find that it can
be split up even further not even considering Westfries as part of this
all. This Westerlauwers Fries is a concept dreamed up to put many
varieties of Frisian together. You will not have anyone in the
Netherlands call Frisian West Frisian. To me it is stupid, never mind
what fancy book it is in.
Thanks, :)
GerardM
Till Westermayer wrote:
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Hi Mark, hi Gerard,
Apparently, you don't realise that there are
basically 3 separate
Frisian languages.
am I the only one how isn't able to realize what the hot fought
discussion is about? As far as I understood the mails, Mark and Gerard
were saying more or less the same. What is the difference?
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