[Wikipedia-l] Naming Conventions (names and titles)

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 09:34, Rob Brewer wrote:
> At 04:44 23/09/02 -0500, Tesla Coil wrote:
> 
> >In no case is it [[Edward Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby]] and
> >[[Edward Stanley, 15th Earl of Derby]]. "English-speakers do
> >not put family names as part of the title."
> 
> ...which is quite clearly untrue, at least when referring
> in formal terms to historical figures. The Dictionary of
> National Biography, for example, lists peers by their family
> name, as in: CAVENDISH, Spencer Compton, Marquis of Hartington
> and 8th Duke of Devonshire.

I think Tesla was referring to that specific standard form of quoting a
title, where I believe he's correct - you would indeed *not* cite the
surname in that particular formulation.
-- 
adamw