--- Lars Aronsson <lars(a)aronsson.se> wrote:
Anthere wrote:
Ah, and who do you think would appoint a
"site
owner" ???
Jimbo ?
Yes, of course. He owns the system, the name, and
the machines. He
is very generous and liberal, but he is the owner.
If you fear that
he will shut down Wikipedia, you should keep a
backup copy of the GFDL
contents on your own computer, but it is not
self-evident that you
can reuse the name "Wikipedia", since that would be
regulated by U.S.
trademark law. Jimmy might decide to form a
non-profit organization
under U.S. law or perhaps Swiss law (like the
U.N.?), but as far as I
know, he hasn't done this yet.
I'm not unhappy with this. I fully trust Jimmy.
But I don't see the
point in denying the fact that he owns the current
system and
trademark. If you eat in a restaurant, the
restaurant has an owner,
even if you pay for your food.
Lars, there's something rather important that I would
like to state here. And that will go for every
embassador I think. If we are, for example, to report
what the feelings on a subject are on a international
wiki, I think it is important that one does not
confuse the feelings reported with the feelings of the
reporter. And I feel that some of the "you" over there
might be adressed to me.
So, let's say, I have no problem with Jimbo being an
owner, and I decided to trust him. I don't like an
encyclopedia being confused with a dictionary (though
I own a Larousse encyclop�dique and like it a lot, so
could survive with a few dictionary definitions
included in Wikipedia). I dont feel any need for a
backupcopy.
But I'm not gonna talk about the french wikipedians by
saying "they", but rather "we" or "some" or
"most"
And I say, I think "most" would not appreciate at all
a surrogate site owner appointed by Jimbo. This is
just my opinion of course...
My personal belief is that we have to share a common
set of rules, the rest of them are our own business,
as long as it respect the common set view.
"Wikipedia is not a dictionary". So if the
French
Wikipedia is
becoming a dictionary, somebody is breaking this
rule. Either the
French Wikipedia should straight up, or the rule
should be revised.
The French wikipedia is not becoming a dic. Some
support it, other do not; and since we don't agree on
that, there certainly is no rules. So nothing to
revise. And I don't see very well who could straighten
that up.
This has not been the conclusion of previous
discussions on this list
regarding the English Wikipedia. People are now
actively deleting
"stub" articles.
this is an english rule. It was discussed on the
english list, by english people. Not us. Does your
wiki only follow english rules ? You don't have your
own ?
If you eat in a
restaurant or stay in a hotel, you must behave as
the owner tells you.
I know how to behave when it is *required*. You are
welcome to invite me to the restaurant in the future.
I will behave ;-)
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