[Wikipedia-l] NPOV and the israeli-palestinian conflict

[Poor, Edmund W]

>> One thing I'm interested in, is how much the anger of Palestinian
>> nationalists is due to mistreatment by Israel -- compared to how much is
>> frustration because of rejection by Islamic nations to assimilate refugees --
>> and also how much is due to rabble-rousing by groups dedicated to Israel's
>> destruction. How's that for a "dangerous question"?
>
>Can people now see why these articles are a big problem for Wikipedia? This is
>how long it took for a meta discussion to get nasty on specific points.
>
>I'm in favour of just removing the articles and stating that Wikipedia at this
>date is unable to provide a NPOV, even after a year of trying.
>
>-- Daniel

I don't understand: what is "nasty" about trying to sort things out? If the nationalists' anger is due entirely to (a) and not at all to (b) or (c), just say so. I wasn't trying to make a point; I was really trying to get information to put into the article.

I would like us to be able to write something like:

(B) Palestinian Arabs have never expressed a desire to be assimilated into existing Islamic nations such as Jordan or Syria; they just want to establish a new nation.

Or:

(C-1) Arab Palestinians do not want to destroy Israel but live in peace as neighbors. 

But it might instead be:

(C-2) The Arab world is dedicated to Israel's destruction, and once they gain military control over the West Bank their next plan is to launch a fourth war against Israel.

There are some people who believe C-1 and some who believe C-2. Is is wrong to try to find out who believes what? How else can I find out other than asking questions? (I'm not good at original research.)

Ed Poor