Jan Hidders wrote at last: >This discussion is probably coming out of everybodies noses by now, so I >suggest we wrap it up, or continue it by e-mail. I want to answer you, and I don't want to leave the public forum, so I'll reply at [[User talk:Jan Hidders/HTML-free mark-up]]. See you there! -- Toby Bartels <toby+wikipedia-l at math.ucr.edu>