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[Gareth Owen]

Jimmy Wales <jwales at bomis.com> writes:

> There are several unstated assumptions here that are central to Marxist
> dogma

Quite true.  The article you quoted was utterly bollocks.
I'm would not raise an objection to its immediate deletion, were it included
in wikipedia.  But (and one should not take this too seriously either, I
don't actually care), I'd be keen to know why you differentiate between:

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Marxists say the market inevitably generates inequality and the accumulation
of capital, and even more seriously, commodity production and the day-to-day
activity entailed in buying and selling oneself on the market is the very
ground on which bourgeois ideology grows.[1]
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and
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Followers of the Unification Church[2] believe Reverend Moon is the messiah,
and that all the historical founders of all other religions have recently, in
Heaven, proclaimed Moon's messiahship.
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Both camps sincerely hold those beliefs, and I don't know (or care) enough to
naysay either of them, but, as I understand it, few outside their movements
would give them much creedence.  I wouldn't dream of removing the latter, so I
couldn't bring myself to remove the former, either.  

Setting aside the horrible writing from marxists.org, what worries me is that
the rejection of the former and acceptance of the latter as a valid
encyclopedia article is predicated on the politico-religious views of our
contributors, which is an intrinsically non-NPOV state of affairs.

[1] I don't even understand this sentence.  I guess I'm not up with jargon.
    I must return home and reread James Thurber's hilarious
        "What the leftists are saying"

[2] And I don't mean to single out the UC here, it is merely that their
    beliefs are more readily available than other minority religions.
-- 
Gareth Owen
"Je suis marxist, tendence Groucho" -- Paris graffito, 1968