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M. Bimmler<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2005/8/16, <a href="mailto:gristmiami@bellsouth.net">gristmiami@bellsouth.net</a> <<a href="mailto:gristmiami@bellsouth.net">gristmiami@bellsouth.net</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I NEED TO STOP RECEIVING ALL WIKINEWS..........PLEASE`STOP. <<a href="mailto:gristmiami@bellsouth.net">gristmiami@bellsouth.net</a>><br>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br>><br>> From: "David Speakman" <
<a href="mailto:david@speakman.com">david@speakman.com</a>><br>> Date: 2005/08/16 Tue AM 03:34:40 EDT<br>> To: "'Wikinews mailing list'" <<a href="mailto:wikinews-l@Wikimedia.org">wikinews-l@Wikimedia.org
</a>><br>> Subject: Opposed to any more policy-setting via chat rooms RE: [Wikinews-l]<br>> Todo list/Wikinews Future Talk 3<br>><br>> I am against use of IRC to set Wikinews policy.<br>><br>> These sessions are always attended by the same small group of people -
<br>> whereas the majority of WN contributors cannot make it to the chats for<br>> various reasons.<br>><br>> There is no valid argument as to why each and every issue raised cannot be<br>> handled in the wiki way - via talk pages. It may be slower, but it provides
<br>> an adequate way for ALL interested parties to participate regardless of time<br>> zone.<br>><br>> --<br>> David Speakman<br>> <a href="http://www.DavidSpeakman.com">http://www.DavidSpeakman.com</a>
<br>> 501 Moorpark Way #83<br>> Mountain View CA 94041<br>> Phone: 408-382-1459<br>><br>><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: <a href="mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org">wikinews-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org
</a><br>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org">wikinews-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org</a>] On Behalf Of Craig Spurrier<br>> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:51 PM<br>> > To: Wikinews mailing list
<br>> > Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Todo list/Wikinews Future Talk 3<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Hello,<br>> > I think a third future talk is a great idea. I do however<br>> > have a few issues with this proposal.
<br>> ><br>> > The date appears to be randomly chosen. IRC and any other<br>> > real time methods will exclude people based upon timezones<br>> > and available times. All of the other future talks times have
<br>> > been chosen by creating a page with a list of possible times,<br>> > and having people indicate what dates/times they are<br>> > available. The date/time with the most people available is<br>> > then used. If they are unable to make the listed times, they
<br>> > are encouraged to list what times they would be able to make.<br>> ><br>> > My second issue with this is the inclusion of the WNN<br>> > proposal in the items to discus. This proposal has been
<br>> > discussed many times, and the results are always the same,<br>> > people arguing with nothing accomplished. The WNN proposal if<br>> > it is to survive, needs either to be ignored until the<br>> > project can support it, or for the previous discussions to be
<br>> > acted upon.<br>> ><br>> > My third issue with it is Nick moderating it, no past future<br>> > talk has been moderated, and I do not think it should be<br>> > especially by some one with such strong opinions on many of the topics
<br>> ><br>> > Craig Spurrier<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Nicholas Gerda wrote:<br>> ><br>> > >Eloquence, Ed Brown and I came up with a starter list for<br>> > work that we<br>> > >feel should be accomplished on Wikinews. This list follows and is
<br>> > >freely available for editing at<br>> > ><a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Todo_list">http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Todo_list</a> .<br>> > ><br>> > >1. Resolve Portal namespace and Portal design issues
<br>> > (encourage local<br>> > >reporting). 2. Resolve Google News indexing issues (Stable version<br>> > >flagging). 3. Revise decision-making process (Voting policy).<br>> > >4. Main Page (what belongs, what doesn't belong).
<br>> > >5. Work on modifying WNN proposal to appease community's requests.<br>> > >6. Encourage more Investigative reporting.<br>> > >7. User-friendliness (we currently have high standards,<br>
> > possible "This<br>> > >just in" raw news box).<br>> > >8. Expand editor base (Contact college journalism departments, etc.).<br>> > ><br>> > >These will be the set topics for Wikinews Future Talk 3,
<br>> > which I plan<br>> > >on moderating on Saturday, August 20, at 21:00 UTC.<br>> > ><br>> > >Nick<br>> > >_______________________________________________<br>> > >Wikinews-l mailing list
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