[Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news'

[cirt tric]

Wikinews Importer Bot has helped improve the amount of links incoming to
Wikinews' Main Page and to individual Wikinews articles - Perhaps not
directly from en.wikipedia's Main Page itself - but certainly from Portal
pages, and pretty prominently at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Brian McNeil
<brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org>wrote:

> Do we want the Wikipedia news people? They'd need to put in a lot more
> effort - at the moment they just make 2-3 sentences from an item that is
> being included in Wikipedia, and their work appears on the 8th most popular
> site on the Internet.
>
> Wikinews does okay having a link above the crease on WP's main page.
> Selling
> a link like that on the main page would probably be worth six figures,
> we're
> not capitalising on that. And we cannot order people from Wikipedia to work
> on Wikinews to do so. It is like the meta discussion on a global BLP, we
> don't want told what we can and can't write, let alone even risk it. WP
> people involved with their news section would not take kindly to being told
> to do a full report on Wikinews.
>
>
> Brian.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikinews-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> Safoutin
> Sent: 25 May 2009 21:53
> To: Wikinews mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news'
>
> That can already be done easily as it is now. Those who write the news
> on WP can write the news on WP. It should not be a matter of popularity,
> but a matter of getting out the most information, the easiest, quickest
> way possible, with as much *collaboration *as possible. As it is, with
> the contributions on WP for the news, we are not collaborating we are
> competing. It may or may not be an intentional competition but is its
> one. It seems the only time we get any contributors from WP is when they
> do something to piss everyone else off. When the incident is settled,
> they go back to writing news on WP...the same news that they were just
> writing on WN. So I am just lost as to what exactly the point of all
> this would be? Its like taking what WMF stands for and ignoring it
> because something may or may not be as popular as it was before.
>
> --
> Jason Safoutin
> Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator
> jason.safoutin at wikinewsie.org
>
>
>
> Brian McNeil wrote:
> > I would agree were Wikinews a far, far more active project. In such
> > circumstances Wikinews would do the news, and it would be filtered to a
> > small section on the Wikipedia main page.
> >
> >
> > Brian.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wikinews-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> Safoutin
> > Sent: 25 May 2009 20:01
> > To: Wikinews mailing list
> > Cc: wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news'
> >
> > I have my stance on Wikipedia and the news section. Wikipedia is an
> > online encyclopedia. Not a news site. Whether or not it was around
> > before Wikinews makes no difference. The mere fact that Wikipedia has a
> > news section, makes it almost like Wikinews is to compete with them.
> > There would be no real problem, other than those who would scream about
> > it, to move the Wikipedia news to Wikinews. There would be nothing lost
> > on Wikipedia, given the fact Wikinews and WP are run by the same
> > foundation and are all sister projects. I hear the same argument of
> > "Wikinews is not a reliable news site", but there is no logical reason
> > for Wikipedia to have a news section. It just seems, in my opinion, that
> > having it on Wikipedia, just takes one of the fundamental goals of WMF
> > away: collaboration.
> >
> >
>
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