Yes, definitely. Thanks for bringing up these important points. I'll let the discussion continue and weigh in more later, but just so you know Hilton Theunissen is indeed the person I have been in contact with.<br><br>
Excited to hear there is interest in general, though!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Kieran O'Neill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oneillkza@gmail.com">oneillkza@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Of course, this is just some quick web sleuthing -- I may just be a little paranoid. But the kind of training you're talking about seems to be a commercial product offered by Sangari, so I would want to know a little more about the whole situation before leaping in. <div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 May 2011 12:27, Kieran O'Neill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oneillkza@gmail.com" target="_blank">oneillkza@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think we should be a little careful about how we go about this. While Sangari appear to have taken over Inkululeko Technologies (who inherited the TuxLab project), they appear to be strictly a commercial entity, with a focus on proprietary software and teaching materials.<div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/" target="_blank">http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://techrights.org/2010/12/29/antagonism-to-freedom-in-sa-edu/" target="_blank">http://techrights.org/2010/12/29/antagonism-to-freedom-in-sa-edu/</a> (take this link with a pinch of salt)<br>
<br></div><div>If Sangari's record on the TuxLab project is anything to go by (the website is now defunct, with just an Apache server error showing), I'm not sure that they carried much on from Inkululeko. </div>
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<br></div><div>Probably it would be best to contact Hilton Theunissen (who ran Inkululeko) and ask him what's up -- he seems to still own the .</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=inkululeko&Enter=Enter" target="_blank">http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=inkululeko&Enter=Enter</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>My main concern is that there is a fine line between engaging with a corporation to help a community, and doing free labour for said corporation to directly enhance its profits. I would feel much better working with a non-profit, rather than a company trying to sell a product to the SA government.</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On 13 May 2011 10:47, David Richfield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidrichfield@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidrichfield@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p>This is exactly the kind of thing that our chapter should be working on! A relevant, exciting, useful project that can seriously raise the profile of Wikipedia in South Africa. </p>
<p>I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure all of our members would love to get involved.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>David Richfield</p>
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