Abbass,<div><br></div><div>Thanks again, it works perfectly well now!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:26 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wikimediake-request@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimediake-request@lists.wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I've changed your digest options. I'm opening the link and it's working perfectly in my side.<br>
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But then , the link you sent me leads to some blank page, and again, how do I change my digest settings to 'off' as you suggested?<br>
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Here: <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws</a><br>
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You might want to change your digest settings to off -- which is why you have a problem keeping up to speed.<br>
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Where can I read the bylaws of wikimedia kenya? I haven't had a look at them.<br>
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6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been sent the board may remove membership from you".<br>
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My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a member who wanted to go.)<br>
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Great idea Abbas, i'm for it. I also support Jessie's idea of adding video links to the offline wikipedia. I hope that it's possible.<br>
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Excellent idea, Abbas, and thank you, Jessie, for these links.<br>
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Note that Camara is represented in Kenya, in Mombasa:<a href="http://kenya.camara.ie/" target="_blank">http://kenya.camara.ie/</a><br>
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Perhaps WMKE can help Camara expand the Kenya operation? Perhaps, likewise, Camara can support and help WMKE? Please take some time to look into this.<br>
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Could we maybe reach out to them and see if we can get them to meet us in Nairobi during my upcoming visit?<br>
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yes, Khan is something that is widely distributed in the same open education resources community that our Offline Wikipedia is very popular in! There are some offline projects that already package it together with our resources along with others, including Camara[1] and the RACHEL education portal.<br>
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It would be awesome to figure out ways to add links (for example, at the top of a page in italics) to specific articles within the offline Wikipedia that sync to a complementary video lesson, imho :)<br>
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Yep , I definately endorse this idea because it is in appraisal of our objectives as a chapter.<br>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments<br>
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