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<body class='hmmessage'>Isaac,<br><br>a co. Ltd by gyarantee doesnt necessarily have to be led by a CEO nor do the signatories be director finance/communications. It all depends on the bylaws: if we want it to be led by a Chairperson, then so be it. And if we want the signatories to be, say, 2 board members, that's equally possible.<br><br>There is no fixed parameters that we must stick to. As far as I know, we have the ability, through the bylaws, to custom-make our protocol the Wikimedia way.<br><br>> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:05:53 +0300<br>> From: kips8505izo@gmail.com<br>> To: oliver_stegen@sil.org; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011<br>> <br>> I I am sorry I have not been replying to the thread I have cats the<br>> whole week and exams next week. at least I will be free to contribute<br>> more from 10th next month when I am through with project and exams.<br>> on My part I have a few points to make<br>> 1. A company limited by Guarantee is headed by CEO<br>> 2. The supporting executive staff are called directors<br>> 3. The total number of the executive team should be an odd number say<br>> 5 or seven ( I think somebody had already noted that.<br>> <br>> 4. The requirements for registration are MoA- Memorandum of<br>> Association and AoA- articles of Association<br>> 5.The registration fee is around 35,000<br>> 6.There are a minimum of three signatories preferably are CEO,<br>> Director finance and Director Communications.<br>> 7. It takes 2-3 weeks for it to be processed from date of application.<br>> 8. It is advisable to have an internal constitution.<br>> 9. The other members will be ordinary members.<br>> <br>> <br>> Once the registration is done and you have put everything in place<br>> then we can thing of expanding by bringingg in a non executive board<br>> (e.g someone from ICT Board, PS Ministry Communications Kenya,<br>> Ministry of education )or any other organization this are people whose<br>> role will be to advise the org.<br>> <br>> With that said Can you reflect on thefollowing:<br>> 1.Set a time frame of activities (Org registration, the MOA and AoA<br>> writing,internal constitution writing -Abbas should propose that then<br>> members to second.<br>> 2.The best way to work on the above is delegation of duties to a small<br>> group who will write and present to the whole group for amendment and<br>> approval<br>> <br>> All the best as you deliberate will join you from May 10th.<br>> <br>> <br>> On 12/04/2011, Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen@sil.org> wrote:<br>> > Well said, Abbas,<br>> ><br>> > I wholeheartedly support us going ahead with co.ltd by guarantee and<br>> > requesting the lawyer to suggest changes to our bylaws accordingly.<br>> ><br>> > Haya, tusonge mbele!<br>> ><br>> > Oliver (aka BT)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _____<br>> ><br>> > From: wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> > [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abbas Mahmood<br>> > Sent: 11 April 2011 15:36<br>> > To: Wikimedia Kenya<br>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Hello,<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:43:12 +0300<br>> ><br>> >> From: chriwaustin@gmail.com<br>> >> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011<br>> >><br>> >> Greetings, the issue of registering the chapter is a pressing matter<br>> >> at the moment. Its therefore my appeal to all of us to ensure we get<br>> >> the current stalement behind us ASAP.<br>> >> As mentioned at the meeting, proceedings between the lawyer and our<br>> >> representatives were to be posted; so as to act as a guidance for the<br>> >> other members prior to the voting.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > At this stage, I'm assuming that the active members all know the difference<br>> > of a trust, society and co. ltd by guarantee. I don't mind writing them down<br>> > again, but the issue that has just been raised is that this is not a voting<br>> > matter.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >>An official voting session was<br>> >> then to be organized where the legal vehicle selected by most of the<br>> >> members will prevail. However, of greater importance were the by-laws<br>> >> that are supposed to govern us.<br>> >> Therefore, a greater responsibility lies to those liasing with the<br>> >> lawyer in educating the rest of the members before we get to vote.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I am the person liaising with the lawyer and I have tried my level best to<br>> > repeat over and over again what he told me and the ones that were at the<br>> > iHub meetup. And, despite Oscar being tired of this monotony, I have still<br>> > taken the initiative to answer most, if not all, queries regarding the<br>> > bylaws and the legal mechanism to the best of my ability.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Moreover, we need to set reasonable time-limits for instance the<br>> >> voting date, duration et cetera.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > But the issue here is that some people don't want to vote in the first<br>> > place. So why set a voting date, if this is not an issue that requires<br>> > voting?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Lastly, timely and official<br>> >> documentation of any proceedings, sessions and occurences need to be<br>> >> availed to all members.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > What documents, in particular? If it is the minutes, they are on the mailing<br>> > list. If it's the bylaws, they are on meta, on wikimedia.or.ke and on<br>> > etherpad. As far as I know, all important documents are shared. It is up to<br>> > the members themselves to take an initiative of keenly following up the<br>> > discussions on a day-to-day basis.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> We need to get words into action immediately for the well being of the<br>> >> foundation.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Not for the well being of the Foundation. The Foundation and the chapters<br>> > are two different entities. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's for the well<br>> > being of Wikimedia Kenya.<br>> >> Regards, Riwa.<br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> WikimediaKE mailing list<br>> >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Isaac K. Kosgei.<br>> Bachelor of Agribusiness Management<br>> Egerton University,<br>> Njoro Kenya.<br>> (+254727553981)<br>> www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo<br>> Skype:Kipsizoo<br>> Twitter:@Kipsizoo<br>> *"You Must be the Change you wish to see in the world"-Mahatma Ghandi<br>> *<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> WikimediaKE mailing list<br>> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake<br> </body>
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