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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well said, Abbas,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I wholeheartedly support us going ahead
with co.ltd by guarantee and requesting the lawyer to suggest changes to our
bylaws accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Haya, tusonge mbele!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Oliver (aka BT)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Abbas Mahmood<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 11 April 2011 15:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Wikimedia Kenya<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Wikimedia <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>] Meetup
Minutes: 09/04/2011</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:43:12 +0300<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>> From: chriwaustin@gmail.com<br>
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>]
Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011<br>
> <br>
> Greetings, the issue of registering the chapter is a pressing matter<br>
> at the moment. Its therefore my appeal to all of us to ensure we get<br>
> the current stalement behind us ASAP.<br>
> As mentioned at the meeting, proceedings between the lawyer and our<br>
> representatives were to be posted; so as to act as a guidance for the<br>
> other members prior to the voting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>At this stage, I'm assuming that the active members all
know the difference of a trust, society and co. ltd by guarantee. I don't mind
writing them down again, but the issue that has just been raised is that this
is not a voting matter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>>An official voting session was<br>
> then to be organized where the legal vehicle selected by most of the<br>
> members will prevail. However, of greater importance were the by-laws<br>
> that are supposed to govern us.<br>
> Therefore, a greater responsibility lies to those liasing with the<br>
> lawyer in educating the rest of the members before we get to vote.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>I am the person liaising with the lawyer and I have tried
my level best to repeat over and over again what he told me and the ones that
were at the iHub meetup. And, despite Oscar being tired of this monotony, I
have still taken the initiative to answer most, if not all, queries regarding
the bylaws and the legal mechanism to the best of my ability. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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> Moreover, we need to set reasonable time-limits for instance the<br>
> voting date, duration et cetera. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>But the issue here is that some people don't want to vote
in the first place. So why set a voting date, if this is not an issue that
requires voting?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Lastly, timely and official<br>
> documentation of any proceedings, sessions and occurences need to be<br>
> availed to all members.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>What documents, in particular? If it is the minutes, they
are on the mailing list. If it's the bylaws, they are on meta, on
wikimedia.or.ke and on etherpad. As far as I know, all important documents are
shared. It is up to the members themselves to take an initiative of keenly
following up the discussions on a day-to-day basis.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
> We need to get words into action immediately for the well being of the<br>
> foundation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Not for the well being of the Foundation. The Foundation
and the chapters are two different entities. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's
for the well being of Wikimedia <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
> Regards, Riwa.<br>
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