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<div dir="ltr">*offlist*<br><br>I know Bala could have used a better tone, however he has raised some very good points. Lets stay focused on this and not convert it into another flame war like the previous IEP thread.<br><br>I know you guys have been working hard and that this hurts. However, on the other side of the river, people like Bala are having to face a lot of shit online, hence he is loosing his patience. Lets hope that this research takes your points and his points into consideration and there is a way worked out.<br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: ramshankaryadav@gmail.com<br>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:07:36 +0530<br>To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis<br><br>Dear Bala,<div>I'm glad that you came up with few more questions but most of them are in negative tone. </div><div>We would love to have few questions from you pointing on few of the good things as well.</div><div><br>
</div><div>Please don't mind, it's not personal.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ram<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bala Jeyaraman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sodabottle@gmail.com">sodabottle@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Somethings vital that are missing:<br><br>1) How many regular editors were required to clean up the articles. How many reverts/cleanup edits were required to clean up after the IEP students.<br>
2) How many admin actions/interventions were required - warnings, blocks, mergers, deletions, AFDs<br>
3) How many regular volunteer hours were spent on this project.<br>4) How much did the new page patrollers (NPP) backlog increase because of IEP<br>5) How much did the copyright cleanup investigations (CCI) backlog increase because of IEP<br>
6) How long is it going to take to clean everything up. What do the NPP/CCI project members feel about the extra workload.<br>7) What was the impact on the existing en wiki community. How their attitude towards such a program has been damaged. <br>
<br>A supplimentary question:<br>Are kudpung, moonriddengirl, fluffernutter, Voceditenore, spacemanspiff et al being interviewed? <br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote"><div class="ecxim">On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, sankarshan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:foss.mailinglists@gmail.com">foss.mailinglists@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nitika <<a href="mailto:ntandon@wikimedia.org">ntandon@wikimedia.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> We want to collate data points to be able to analyze and draw out trends.<br>
> Here is an example of data that we're trying to dig out (and this is just a<br>
> sub-set of a preliminary list)<br>
<br>
</div>Sharing the entire list of data points would be a nice thing to have.<br>
If it is possible.<br>
<div><br>
> What's the amount of data that students have added to Wikipedia? What's the<br>
> amount of data that got reverted? What's the net amount of information that<br>
> the students have added on Wikipedia?<br>
<br>
</div>The above should lend themselves to instrumentation and should be<br>
somewhat trivially available.<br>
<div><br>
> How many students edited articles outside of their in-class assignments?<br>
<br>
</div>This is an interesting and non-trivial question. Which prompts me to<br>
ask - why would you want to track this ?<br>
<div><br>
> How many student's got warnings on their talk pages? How many students<br>
> corrected their errors after these warnings?<br>
> How many students got blocked? / How many students got blocked more than<br>
> once?<br>
<br>
</div>Again, the above should be easily instrumented. At least, the initial<br>
nature of the questions look that way.<br>
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sankarshan mukhopadhyay<br>
<<a href="http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog" target="_blank">http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog</a>><br>
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