<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Nov 12, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Gautam John wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font>Srikantha, thanks for posting this. I did not know about it till you<br>posted it and I am sure there are many like me. It is worrying but at<br>the same time offers us a chance to make things better for the future.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Apologies, Gautam, Srikanth and others, I ought to have posted the updates on the India mailing list too.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>As I see it, the majority of the challenges have been around<br>plagiarism and copyright violations. (I wish we wouldn't conflate<br>these things - they aren't the same.) </div></blockquote><div><br></div>Agree</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>There are multiple ways to solve<br>this - one is technology and the other one is the age old methods of<br>'capacity building' and 'sensitisation'. Question is, are the latter<br>two areas of work for the India Programs office because they aren't<br>short term or easy. A via-media is to run all submission through some<br><a href="http://turnitin.com/">http://turnitin.com/</a> type system to check. Or maybe a hybrid - where<br>they don't edit on the mainspace but say on a sandbox run in India by,<br>perhaps, the Chapter and then they graduate? It's easy to overwhelm<br>the system when so many students sign up - a ladder of evolution in to<br>a Wikipedia editor might help. As might the idea of pairing/twining<br>either the students together (they check each other) or student with<br>current editor (which may have already failed).<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All valid suggestions and we will consider them all in our analysis of what went wrong and how/if we can do things better going forward.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br> that's needed but some honesty and vulnerability to learn,<br>accept and act on the feedback.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Absolutely, Gautam, and that's exactly how we will approach this.</div><div><br></div><div>hisham</div></div></body></html>