Hoi,<br>I am pretty sure that when we announce that the easy upload facility becomes available in Indian languages once the software is localised there will be a friendly competition what language gets the new functionality first.<br>
<br><grin> when you add a competition that showers recognition on the first Indian photographer who uploads a new picture and gets it featured on Commons from the date of the availability in his or her language, we will not only gain many localisations but also potentially many photos. Many great photos even :) </grin><br>
Thanks,<br> GerardM<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 March 2011 23:29, Neil Kandalgaonkar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neilk@wikimedia.org">neilk@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 3/3/11 2:12 PM, Siebrand Mazeland wrote:<br>
> Op 03-03-11 22:25 schreef Neil Kandalgaonkar<<a href="mailto:neilk@wikimedia.org">neilk@wikimedia.org</a>>:<br>
><br>
</div>>> - How best to roll this out ?<br>
<div class="im">> Can the roll-out be geo based? This will allow you to slowly grow usage<br>
> across different countries, and make it possible to most likely get<br>
> feedback from for example "language X" speakers. It would get you across<br>
> project communities, too.<br>
<br>
</div>I'm not sure I understand. What's the advantage of this? Will Germans<br>
use it very differently from Americans? Does a publicized "now available<br>
in your country" help create the nucleus of a community?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> Another option would be a language/project based incremental deployment.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, this is not slated for any Wikipedia (yet). We're focusing on<br>
Commons, which is in theory multilingual.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
>> - How to monitor how this changes what gets uploaded, does it increase<br>
>> copyvio, etc. Obviously if this starts to increase we want to pull back<br>
>> and reassess.<br>
><br>
> You have to take a "0 measurement" now to be able to compare. Define<br>
> critical success factors, measure, deploy, measure again. Copyvio may be<br>
> hard to measure (additional tools/dev/work required). Survival rate of one<br>
> month would for example be an easier indicator.<br>
<br>
</div>Our real critical success factor is increasing participation, the most<br>
obvious would be a simple increase in volume of work submitted that<br>
survives after a month.<br>
<br>
One worry that people have voiced is that this will increased<br>
*undetected* copyvio. The theory is that people who copyvio are apt to<br>
be dissuaded by Commons' "traps" for the unwary. I am personally really<br>
skeptical of that theory, but I recognize that we may be making it<br>
easier to get through the process for copyvio people too.<br>
<br>
Perhaps we need to take a sampling of photos and ... try harder to<br>
determine copyright? Maybe contact the uploaders in question, if<br>
possible, and just ask them what they thought they were doing? (I'm<br>
assuming most copyvio is done in good faith).<br>
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</font><div class="im">Neil Kandalgaonkar <<a href="mailto:neilk@wikimedia.org">neilk@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
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