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Dear Praveen,<br>
<br>
I help the Wikimedia Foundation through it's advisory board, and just
wanted to say that I'm both grateful for your interest and glad that
Nadig, Sundar, and others have been able to clarify the situation. If
you look at meta, and particularly at the MoA, the process that has
unfolded over the last few years is clearly outlined, and the names of
Wikipedians associated with chapter efforts at different stages,
including currently, are clearly listed. Any suggestions you have for
Indian Wikipedians in general, and the chapter efforts in particular,
need to be taken seriously - and they will be.<br>
<br>
Dear Kiruba,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your message of clarification. As you agreed to some time
ago, could you please remove all the "Wikimedia India" references in
connection with yourself, on LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.? As you
have just explained, you are not involved in the set-up effort
currently. Therefore, removing references that connect you to the
ensuing Wikimedia India chapter would prevent the kind of
miscommunication that Praveen's message highlights. I appreciate your
urgent attention to this matter.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Achal<br>
<br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:25:46 +0100
From: Shiju Alex <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shijualexonline@gmail.com"><shijualexonline@gmail.com></a>
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
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I request all the current committee members to *at least create a user
page*in MetaWiki (
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meta.wikimedia.org">http://meta.wikimedia.org</a>). If you could mention your home wiki and your
contributions to WikiMedia foundation wiki projects (both inside and *outside
wiki*) there, that will enlighten many of us.
Shiju
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Praveen Prakash <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:me.praveen@gmail.com"><me.praveen@gmail.com></a>wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I am very happy and proud to hear that we got a wikimedia indic chapter.
But I wonder why all these activities taken so hidden? We are a community
(or a community of communities), we've an active mailing list, but I didn't
hear anything about such an active effort (may be i missed). Is there any
separate communication medium? Or is this a special chapter for wikimedia
English projects?
I recently learned someone as wikimedia indic chapter director from
linkedin (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://in.linkedin.com/in/kiruba">http://in.linkedin.com/in/kiruba</a>). He is also being CEO,
Founder, Co-Founder, Director of many other initiatives (Actually I don't
have any problem about that). I am thinking about that election process and
members. I am sorry but frankly I don't know any of other guys also. If
possible introduce them, and their home wiki. I wish, an informed community
about any further steps.
If someone can clarify my thoughts originated from poor knowledge, I'll be
more happy.
PraveenP
Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
Dear all,
As Srikanth has already noticed in an earlier e-mail, the draft
Memoranda of Association for the proposed Wikimedia India Chapter has
been put up on Meta here:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA</a>
Even as the team working on the current draft has spent the better
part of a year working on it, I am sure that there would be scope for
improvement. Please provide your invaluable comments and suggestions
on the relevant talk page:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA</a>.
However, given the time we have spent on the document, it is important
that we proceed quickly and hence, I suggest that the comments be made
on or before this Saturday, the 13th of March 2010. Let us maintain
the Wiki-etiquette expected out of us during the discussion.
People curious about the earlier and the current efforts at forming
the India chapter may find my blog post on it,<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563">http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563</a> a complimenting
read. More on Wikimedia India chapter can be seen onhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India.
Let us look forward to a great response in discussing and debating the
MoA of the proposed Wikimedia India chapter.
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Hi Praveen,
Thanks for the mail.
There have been multiple efforts in the past with good intentions but hasn't resulted in successful formation of the chapter.
The current effort and the team is quite committed to getting that done.
I was associated wit the effort but ran ahead of myself. Please discount any of the fancy titles and I apologise for that.
The current team will throw more light on the process of chapter formation.
With regards,
Kiruba
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Praveen Prakash <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:me.praveen@gmail.com"><me.praveen@gmail.com></a>wrote:
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<pre wrap="">But I wonder why all these activities taken so hidden? We are a community
(or a community of communities), we've an active mailing list, but I didn't
hear anything about such an active effort (may be i missed). Is there any
separate communication medium? Or is this a special chapter for wikimedia
English projects?
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The page on meta wiki has had discussions for setting up the Wikimedia India
chapter since 2005. This is not something that has happened over last year,
but a continued effort from what were several failed attempts earlier. I
have jotted down a brief note on the progress which can be read here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563">http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563</a>
But over the last one year, the people involved have shown tremendous
commitment and worked hard, which is why we are here today at a stage where
constitution of the chapter has now been placed before the community for
their comments.
We reasonably expect that the membership would change as per the charter in
order to facilitate the will of the community.
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