[Wikimediaindia-l] About description of of Wikipedia

Shiju Alex shijualexonline at gmail.com
Thu Jun 23 12:42:14 UTC 2011


>
> Gyanamandala is an IPR of Binod Kanungo & Gyanamandala foundation.
>

Is this is possible? Can some one take patent/trademark for some words of a
language?


Here is my take on this name issue :

The name of our encyclopedia is *Wikipedia*. It is wikipedia in all
languages. In odia it is ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ. Hope there is no issue regarding that
in Odia wiki community.

Now the Odia community is having differences regarding the translation of
the word *Encyclopedia* that is used in the phrase "The Free Encyclopedia".
Let us see how this word is translated in other Indian languages:

   - Hindi - ज्ञानकोष - *Gnanakosh*
   - Marathi - ज्ञानकोश - *Gnanakos*
   - Gujarati - વિશ્વજ્ઞાનકોષ - *Vijanakosh *
   - Bengali - বিশ্বকোষ - (Jayantha/Tanvir please transliterate, I guess it
   is *Vijnjanakosh)*
   - Kannada - ವಿಶ್ವಕೋಶ - *Vishwakosa*
   - Telugu - విజ్ఞాన సర్వస్వము - *Vijnjaana sarvasvamu *
   - Tamil - கலைக்களஞ்சியம் - *KalaikkaLanchiyam*
   - Malayalam - സർവ്വവിജ്ഞാനകോശം - *Sarvavijanakosam*

(as usual Tamil is different :) )

In general, across all Indian languages the words *Viswakosh*/*Gnjakosh*/*
Vijanakosh* are used to represnt the word Encyclopedia. But there will be
one word which might be used more frequently than other words. For example,
in Malayalam the word Gnanakosam and Viswakosam are hardly used to denote
encyclopedia. We use Vijanakosam. Like this each language has some
preference over the words. After all this diversity is the beauty of Indian
languages.

So my suggestion is, use the same word that is used more frequency by Odia
speaking people.


But my appeal








On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <psubhashish at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Here is a reply from one user regarding this.
>
> Sambidhan:As I said earlier Gyanamandala is an IPR of Binod Kanungo &
> Gyanamandala foundation. IPR includes trademark, copyright & design patent.
> Gyanamandala is a registered trademark of the foundation, even the
> government of orissa refrains from using "gyanamandal" to describe an
> encyclopedia. Secondly what is also important is on which context are you
> using the word if you are using the word for a similar product then there
> are chances that 2nd party can be sued. Thirdly as far as I know it is
> always best to stay away from controversy. Things like this will drag the
> whole wikipedia foundation into a controversy which is best avoided and
> which the foundation tries to avoid as well. Especially when there are
> better alternate available. Fourthly the generic word for describing an
> encyclopedia in odia is gyanakosha or biswakosha. Finally majority of the
> people as you can see have accepted gyanakosha as the word for describing
> encyclopedia and wikipedia is a democratic organisation which goes by what
> the majority of the mass wants.
>
> And I asked how could I refer our discussion in WP.
>
> On 22 June 2011 21:59, Gautam John <gautam at prathambooks.org> wrote:
>
>> Meaning?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>> ________
>> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 June 2011 21:58, Subhashish Panigrahi <psubhashish at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > And how could I redirect this to the consensus page saying that this
>> word
>> > "Gyanamandala" could be used to describe the phrase?
>> >
>> > On 22 June 2011 21:56, Gautam John <gautam at prathambooks.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You should be just fine, IMHO.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Gautam
>> >> ________
>> >> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22 June 2011 21:54, Subhashish Panigrahi <psubhashish at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Yes Gautam, "Gyanamandala"  is a GENERIC NAME, and there is a book in
>> >> > the
>> >> > same name and the word "Gyanamandala" means "Gyana" (Knowledge)+
>> >> > "Mandala"
>> >> > (Combination/Base), used in places like "Nakhyatra Mandala" / "Tara
>> >> > Mandala"
>> >> > (set of stars in the sky).
>> >> > So, please let me know if the use of this word to describe this
>> phrase
>> >> > "An
>> >> > open Encyclopedia" is fine?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 22 June 2011 21:49, Gautam John <gautam at prathambooks.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I understand correctly, there is a book called "Gyanamandala" and
>> >> >> you want to use this same name for Wikipedia in Oriya? Is this word
>> >> >> defined in the dictionary? That asked, I highly doubt copyright
>> >> >> protection exists for a word - trademark perhaps but not copyright.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gautam
>> >> >> ________
>> >> >> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>> >> >>
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