[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

Vickram Crishna vvcrishna at radiophony.com
Wed Dec 7 11:50:55 UTC 2011


Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it
- yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current
affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting
every side of the picture is important.

Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally
hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag
#IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
<tinucherian at gmail.com>wrote:

> On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* :
>
> " Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet"
>
> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms
>
>
> "*Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential
> that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to
> self-regulation. *
> *
> *
> *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have
> imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and
> comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries
> like "Kapil Sibal", which have been locked due to vandalism!). *
> *
> *
> *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.
> * "
>
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.ghoda at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will
>> hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook.
>>
>> On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala <aprabhala at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> fyi
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject:        Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to
>> >> Censor
>> >> social
>> >> Date:   Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530
>> >> From:   Achal Prabhala <aprabhala at gmail.com>
>> >> To:     Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <
>> >> foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be
>> of
>> > the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is
>> > proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting
>> the
>> > two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his
>> > support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every
>> byte
>> > of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2
>> > different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed
>> with
>> > its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much
>> > more than images.
>> >
>> > If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia
>> > projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites
>> > cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that
>> goes
>> > to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions
>> and
>> > some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go.
>> > Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much
>> work
>> > to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if
>> > such a thing happens.
>> >
>> > There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to
>> submit
>> > to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation
>> does
>> > not arise for us to take those tough calls.
>> >
>> > PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has
>> high
>> > SNR IMO.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> > Srikanth.L
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
>>
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Vickram
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