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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; "> that brings me to a point of confusion. What should we do to be more transparent? I guess things are getting missed through all these discussions and emails, and I'm not sure what else to do besides this? Suggestions would be welcome.</span></blockquote>
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Conforme <a href="http://tradukka.com">http://tradukka.com</a> : "isso me traz a um ponto de confusão. O que devemos fazer para ser mais transparente? Eu acho que as coisas estão ficando perdidas através de todas essas discussões e e-mails, e eu não tenho certeza o que mais fazer além disso? Sugestões serão bem-vindos".</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Olá a todos</div><div><br></div><div>A minha sugestão é interromper esse processo de escolha de um diretor nacional de programas e amadurecer com a comunidade o formato mais adequado de funcionamento de um escritório da WMF no Brasil.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Penso que deve ser um Centro de apoio aos voluntários, coordenado por alguém da WMBr.</div><div><br></div><div>Por favor, opinem.</div><div><br></div><div>Abs, Névio</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
Em 24 de novembro de 2011 05:49, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:everton137@gmail.com">everton137@gmail.com</a>></span> escreveu:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi, Jessie et al,<br>
<br>
thanks for your email. I'd like to go further analysing everything,<br>
but I don't have time now. So I will go to two points that aren't<br>
clear to me and maybe go to Abdo's concern and mine as well while we Progra<br>
had our discussion in Haifa, resulting in the letter of agreement you<br>
pointed out. [1]<br>
<br>
While I saw this open discussion when Carol was working to WMF, as I<br>
said before, and one of her *proposals* was this office with a<br>
national director, my feeling if that when we talked about this in<br>
Haifa it was an *announcement* of a decision base upon Carol's<br>
analysis - maybe my impression is wrong, others involved, please, tell<br>
me if you agree.<br>
<br>
The main points on this of the agreement letter [1] says<br>
<br>
* Brazil is a strategic priority for Wikimedia Foundation.<br>
<br>
* Wikimedia Foundation will set up an office in Brazil in order to<br>
stimulate the development of projects to increase the penetration of<br>
Wikipedia in Brazil. This process was already launched with the search<br>
for locations, hiring lawyers and the search for a professional to<br>
manage it.<br>
<br>
* Wikimedia Foundation understands that the Brazilian community and,<br>
thus, the chapter under formation still doesn't have the capacity to<br>
be completely self-managed.<br>
<br>
* Wikimedia Foundation aims to develop the existing programs in<br>
Brazil, like "Campus Ambassadors", though it still doesn't have a<br>
specific development program for Brazil.<br>
<br>
The reason for the office, point 2, then, if because of point 3. This<br>
announcement was the main reason I said during this discussion some<br>
decision should be more open and transparent. I repeated this to Barry<br>
after the lunch, because I haven't felt comfortable with that. A<br>
reason I can be missing something is that I was not in Brazil during<br>
the meeting of June with Jessie and Barry and I completely forgot to<br>
ask this in Haifa. (Did I miss something?)<br>
<br>
When you both came to Brazil last time (I arrived later on the first<br>
day meeting, tell me if I lost something, please), I was informed<br>
there was not going to have an office anymore. This was the reason for<br>
I have insisted again on the point about transparency and open<br>
discussion just before you and Barry take the taxi to the airport<br>
after your presention at University of São Paulo (do you remember Abdo<br>
was saying to me stop annoying you both? Hahaha!).<br>
<br>
And if we go to Barry's note[2], he says<br>
<br>
"We will move immediately to hire a qualitative researcher to conduct<br>
analysis of PT:WP. We will also hire a Fellow to start working with<br>
the PT community by October. Our Global Education team is looking for<br>
a consultant to help start preliminary planning for the program in<br>
Brazil with a goal of starting some pilot activities in universities<br>
in the first quarter of 2012."<br>
<br>
Then, for me, this other new job position of a national director now<br>
appeared as a surprise. Now we will have a qualitative researcher, a<br>
global consultant and a national director. And the decision of having<br>
again an office (I thought you gave up the idea because of the<br>
progress made by the volunteers to create a legal entity) sound to me<br>
as there were discussions in between we, the Brazilian community, were<br>
left aside.<br>
<br>
These are my concerns and points that aren't clear to me. Being<br>
specific, maybe it can be useful to the general Abdo's concern, which<br>
I think important and this open discussion here is important to<br>
clarify all that.<br>
<br>
Hugs,<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers</a><br>
<br>
[2] <a href="http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nota_do_Barry" target="_blank">http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nota_do_Barry</a><br>
<br>
Em 23 de novembro de 2011 11:12, Jessie Wild <<a href="mailto:jwild@wikimedia.org">jwild@wikimedia.org</a>> escreveu:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> Hi Ale and all -<br>
><br>
> Thanks for vocalizing your concerns. I'm glad they finally came out here in<br>
> the open because I must admit they take me very much by surprise; I didn't<br>
> realize these were all stirring under the surface – which indicates to me we<br>
> all need a better method of transparency! So let's get started figuring that<br>
> out...<br>
><br>
> I want to start by apologizing profusely if anything has come across as<br>
> being secretive or planned in isolation. That is most certainly NOT the<br>
> intent of WMF – there is no desire to try to sneak something in around the<br>
> local Brazilian community; we obviously want the same things: a prosperous<br>
> Portuguese Wikipedia and growth in the Brazilian community. This can only be<br>
> done in conjunction with you all, so there is no intentional effort to<br>
> eliminate you from the process.<br>
><br>
> It seems, though, unintentionally we have done so, so let's try to fix that.<br>
> I will say like any organization, things happen about which not everyone can<br>
> be aware – I'm sure you've all experienced this in your work environments<br>
> before; I certainly have experienced this in WMF, Wikimedia, as well as<br>
> other jobs and organizations I have been heavily involved with: sometimes<br>
> thoughts/ideas/notifications go out that slip through the cracks, sometimes<br>
> the act of sending out a notification slips through the cracks! I agree we<br>
> should try to minimize both.<br>
><br>
> In terms of communication that has gone out: the work with Michael Page was<br>
> NOT suppose to be done in secret, which is why we talked about it multiple<br>
> times over the past months! It was on a wiki in June[0] and October[1] and<br>
> we also brought up this meeting verbally at all our meet-ups over the past<br>
> months, where we also talked about it openly during Wikimania, WikiSampa8<br>
> and 10[2]. Same with the office, which I thought we were agreed upon based<br>
> on the letter from the community back in August[3].<br>
><br>
> So, I guess that brings me to a point of confusion. What should we do to be<br>
> more transparent? I guess things are getting missed through all these<br>
> discussions and emails, and I'm not sure what else to do besides this?<br>
> Suggestions would be welcome. I know language barrier is an issue for some,<br>
> so as Nevio recommended: one step is making sure things are translated<br>
> (thanks to Rodrigo, Beria, Tom, Castelo, Daniela, Mateus and others for<br>
> doing this thus far!).<br>
><br>
> There are other topics that are not addressed in this email, and I fear they<br>
> are too much for one email: (1) the hiring process via Michael Page and (2)<br>
> the opening of an office in general. I will expand on those things below<br>
> (“Appendix”) and do want the discussion to move forward on those, but first<br>
> can we tackle how to maintain transparency and strategically deciding things<br>
> together, as you suggest?<br>
><br>
> Thanks; and FYI – Barry is on vacation this week, and we have holidays<br>
> (Thanksgiving in the US) the next few days, so we may not be as responsive<br>
> as normal.<br>
><br>
> Jessie<br>
><br>
> PS sorry if this doesn't make much sense; I'm in an airport waiting for my<br>
> last flight after 30hrs of traveling...6 more to go :)<br>
><br>
> [0] <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_June_2011" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_June_2011</a><br>
> I'll admit, now looking at this, it appears a bit hidden (listed as “Office<br>
> planning” and you have to scroll down to see, but we got no questions on<br>
> this).<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_October_2011" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_October_2011</a><br>
><br>
> [2] See agenda: ttp://<a href="http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Encontros/2011/8_e_9_de_outubro" target="_blank">br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Encontros/2011/8_e_9_de_outubro</a><br>
><br>
> [3] see appendix for more details on this office discussion!<br>
> <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers</a><br>
><br>
> *** APPENDIX TOPICS :) ***<br>
><br>
> Re: Hiring with Michael Page<br>
><br>
> We have found good success with working with professional search firms both<br>
> for our positions in the US as well as abroad (India), so we engage with<br>
> them – as do MANY other nonprofit firms – as a way of expanding our networks<br>
> into broader areas. The executive search firm in this Brazilian case as<br>
> always does NOT have final say.<br>
><br>
> That is very important.<br>
><br>
> What we are agreed upon with MP is that they will present a “short-list” of<br>
> candidates for us, and we will take-over from there. MP does not control who<br>
> is selected, and we are certainly allowed to go back to MP and say “these<br>
> people are all wrong!” or the like. It is a good concern, though, about<br>
> whether or not they will be able to find people that match our mission.<br>
> After our first meeting with them, Barry and I were a little skeptical of<br>
> this too. But after a second meeting with them they brought on a new guy<br>
> (Marcelo) to head up the search, who was a lot more connected in are realms<br>
> of social work, and we were a lot more confident and excited about working<br>
> with them. Obviously, though, we are wanting to cast our net as wide as<br>
> possible, though, and want all of your help in advertising the position and<br>
> identifying excellent candidates. Most successful placements in most<br>
> organizations are made by internal recommendation![1]<br>
><br>
> Ok so as for the step two of the hiring: “we take over from here.” this part<br>
> is much more tbd, and I am glad we are discussing it now. I love the<br>
> recommendation on having a wiki where applicants put up their ideas<br>
> publicly. Also, we are obviously going to have a couple rounds of interviews<br>
> with panels from the WMF side of things, and WMF wanted to have some<br>
> Brazilian representatives involved with that process as well. None of this<br>
> is finalized yet; let's discuss and come to agreement on the best way.<br>
><br>
> Opening of the office<br>
><br>
> Ok, I am struggling to know where to begin with this, it is so complex. This<br>
> obviously isn't a new idea, it was identified in the strategic plan in<br>
> 2010[2]. It was talked about openly during all Carolina's work as Tom<br>
> mentioned. It was talked about it in January, June, and October when WMF<br>
> came to meet-ups in Brazil. We even held a special time to talk about it in<br>
> Wikimania 2011, where WMF actually decided to put the idea of starting an<br>
> “office” on hold, based on that feedback at Wikimania.[3]<br>
><br>
> In terms of the structure: the two positions posted (Global Ed Person and<br>
> National “Director”[4]) would work completely together. If you read the job<br>
> description for the “Director,” you'll see it involves a lot of other things<br>
> besides just Education. It would incorporate a lot of the partnership type<br>
> building that Kul and I take on at the moment, for example. So, it would for<br>
> now be a two man-team. Again, these things were outlined by Carol in the<br>
> plan and in the note by Barry and in all our verbal conversations.<br>
><br>
> Most importantly, though, was the letter issued by the Brazilians – which<br>
> stated:[5]<br>
><br>
> “Participant members of the Brazilian community decided to: Support the<br>
> creation of Wikimedia Foundation office in Brazil which, as explained at the<br>
> meeting, will have the goal of fostering the realization of partnerships and<br>
> events with the community and the external audiences, provisionally and<br>
> until the local chapter and even the local chapter have enough structure to<br>
> develop such activities directly”<br>
><br>
> I think that is where I get confused, as I thought we were in agreement. So<br>
> is the better process to set up a “voting” page? (note: I'm not sure that's<br>
> the best (or even a good) idea, but I am suggesting for lack of a better one<br>
> at the moment!)<br>
><br>
> [1] citation needed :) but that seems the case in my experiences!<br>
><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Movement_Strategic_Plan_Summary/Increase_Participation" target="_blank">http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Movement_Strategic_Plan_Summary/Increase_Participation</a><br>
><br>
> [3] <a href="http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nota_do_Barry" target="_blank">http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nota_do_Barry</a><br>
><br>
> [4] yes: we can reconsider the title. Please offer suggestions!<br>
><br>
> [5]<a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Brazilian_volunteers</a><br>
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