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O estatuto já foi totalmente traduzido, e ainda temos tempo para uma
revisão geral. Quem quiser pode aprimorar a tradução lá na wiki até
o dia 30.<br>
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Participem:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Estatuto/en">http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Estatuto/en</a><br>
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Obs.: Lembrando que essa tradução não precisa de ser juramentada
porque servirá tão somente para que o ChapCom entenda o
funcionamento do capítulo e dê seu parecer. Ela não terá nenhuma
implicação jurídica. Nada impede que façamos uma tradução
juramentada no futuro, mas por ora, a versão colaborativa serve
perfeitamente.<br>
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Ainda precisamos traduzir as respostas ao questionário do ChapCom:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Perguntas_do_ChapCom">http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Perguntas_do_ChapCom</a><br>
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Castelo<br>
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On 20-11-2011 19:41, Castelo wrote:
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Gente,<br>
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Dos 38 artigos de nosso estatuto, 28 já estão "mais ou menos"
traduzidos[1]. Precisam de uma melhoria no estilo, e de definir
alguns termos específicos. Como se traduz "OSCIP"? E "Carta de
Princípios"? Deixei lá na discussão[2] alguns comentários. Acho
que dá para finalizar até o dia 30.<br>
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CB<br>
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On 15-11-2011 15:30, Castelo wrote:
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Gente, segue íntegra da resposta do ChapCom. Neste momento de
revisão do estatuto pelo ChapCom, a tradução <i>não precisa de
ser juramentada</i>.<br>
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Então temos dois trabalhos: traduzir o estatuto e responder
aquelas perguntas. O Maurício já se ofereceu para ajudar na
tradução, que vai começar imediatamente lá na br.wiki.[1] Quem
mais quiser ajudar, é só chegar. Duas semanas parece razoável
para vocês? Poderíamos então estabelecer 30 de novembro como
data limite para envio das respostas (em inglês) e envio do
estatuto (traduzido) para o ChapCom?<br>
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Castelo<br>
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<td>Re: [ChapCom] Wikimedia Brasil</td>
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Chapters Committee list <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<pre>Hi Castelo,
Just to answer you quickly on the first question: we generally prefer
a volunteer made translation of the bylaws (because they tend to be
free and are of good enough quality to understand and review the
issues relevant to us), so that is what I would recommend to you.
Before we as the Chapters Committee would start reviewing the bylaws,
we would need to get some more information as you say: both some
general info[1] and the specifics related to your special situation.
Feel free to send the answers to me, to Lodewijk
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org"><lodewijk@effeietsanders.org></a> who's been in initial contact with
Beria, or to the general address of the Committee
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chaptercommittee-l@lists.wikimedia.org"><chaptercommittee-l@lists.wikimedia.org></a>. (Unfortunately, it may take
a bit of time to receive an answer especially if you have questions
that require an internal discussion among ourselves, so please don't
be discouraged if we are slow to respond - and feel free to send me a
personal reminder to speed things up.)
Best regards,
Bence
Chapters Committee
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Pipeline/Follow-up_questions">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Pipeline/Follow-up_questions</a>
- I think Beria shared these questions with you, I am not sure I have
seen the answers to it yet
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Castelo Branco
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michelcastelobranco@gmail.com"><michelcastelobranco@gmail.com></a> wrote:
> Dear ChapCom members,
>
> Moving forward, we would like to submit an English version of our bylaws for
> your approval, as recommended in the Step 5 of the Chapter Creation
> Guide[1], which also says that "The Chapters committee might ask for a
> lawyer approved translation of the bylaws, in which case it will provide the
> necessary budget to translate the bylaws."
>
> In Brazil, a lawyer approved translation would cost around USD 500 for this
> lenght (~17k words). We would like to know if we should hire this service or
> provide the translation by ourselves. In the first case, how should we apply
> for the necessary budget?
>
> We also have some other informations to provide, and it would be great to
> have a mentor in this process, as sometimes it can be helpful to know how
> much are you aware of our context (and how much is necessary to describe) in
> some particular issues.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Castelo Branco
> Wikimedia Brasil
>
> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide</a>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Béria Lima <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:berialima@gmail.com"><berialima@gmail.com></a>
> Date: 2011/10/2
> Subject: Wikimedia Brazil
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chaptercommittee-l@lists.wikimedia.org">chaptercommittee-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a>
> Cc: CasteloBranco <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michelcastelobranco@gmail.com"><michelcastelobranco@gmail.com></a>, Fabio Azevedo
> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fazedo@gmail.com"><fazedo@gmail.com></a>
>
>
> Hello people from ChapCom,
>
> As you surely know, in the past, the Brazilian community started a process
> for establishing a local organization to promote the WMF projects within the
> country. Early in September 2008, we submitted to the ChapCom a proposal for
> creating the chapter Wikimedia Brasil, which was approved. Nevertheless, in
> the same year, the volunteers have chosen not to establish a formal chapter
> in that time. The reasons were pointed out in the Chapter Report 2008, but
> this discussion never ended.
>
> In 2011, the whole Brazilian community has finally reached an agreement, in
> order to create a minimum legal structure to support and expand our
> activities across the country. Those activities will keep being freely
> created and driven by volunteers, but with legal, institutional and
> financial support by WMBR Board. With such model in mind, we have re-written
> our bylaws, which is now being reviewed by lawyers. The next step will be
> submitting it to the ChapCom and asking for the new recognizement as a
> chapter. All our steps are being widely announced, either in our
> mailing-list as in social networks and also discussed in our wiki and in
> many IRC-meetings.
>
> Therefore, we would like to re-start this process.
> _____
> Béria Lima
> Wikimedia Brazil volunteer
> (351) 925 171 484
>
> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
> acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
> fazer.
>
>
>
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