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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Worth noting that both EFA and GetUp are coordinating on this
issue: so Wikimedians who in their personal capacity are interested in getting
involved in the campaign against such laws should get in touch with one of
those organisations...and watch for more.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Kimberlee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wikimediaau-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediaau-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 16 December 2009 10:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wikimedia-au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety
of theinternet for families"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My own position is very similar
to Liam's - personally opposed to the filter as a free-thinking Australian
citizen who believes it should be up to parents what their kids see and the
government has no place telling adults what they can or can not see.
Additionally I think it could have speed effects and we're already one of the
slower countries broadband-wise in the developed world. I also agree with Liam
though that we need to be clear with the outside world that we are not
Wikipedia, and it is a fine line (promoting something while not being
responsible for it - which is not irresponsible, but rather acknowledging the
responsiblity correctly lies elsewhere).<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2009/12/16 Liam Wyatt <<a
href="mailto:liamwyatt@gmail.com">liamwyatt@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes, indeed this is a good
question and an important issue. <br>
On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most
Wikimedians in Australia are. <br>
However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be
"responsible for" Wikipedia. <br>
This was a problem faced by Wikimedia UK in both the "virgin killer"
and the National Portrait Gallery issues - the UK chapter was very careful not
to place itself as the official spokesperson for Wikipedia. <br>
<br>
Of course, the mandate of the Chapter is to advocate for Free Cultural Works
and in that sense being involved in political lobbying is something that it
can/could/should do. We have previously made a submission to a government
inquiry for example. Making a statement about the filter or similar actions is
within the chapter's powers. <br>
<br>
But... in the event that Wikipedia were to become blocked or was "caught
up" in some scandal around this issue, the Chapter can only describe what
Wikipedia policies and practices are - it cannot be seen as responsible for the
content and have a policy for how to make Wikipedia unblocked or what-have-you.
<br>
<br>
my 2 cents, <br>
-Liam <br>
<br clear=all>
<a href="http://wittylama.com/blog" target="_blank">wittylama.com/blog</a><br>
Peace, love & metadata<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Andrew <<a
href="mailto:orderinchaos78@gmail.com" target="_blank">orderinchaos78@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an
official<br>
position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be<br>
reached promptly.<br>
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Cheers<br>
<span style='color:#888888'>Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn <<a href="mailto:mattinbgn@gmail.com"
target="_blank">mattinbgn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Does the chapter have a position on this<o:p></o:p></p>
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href="http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115"
target="_blank">http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115</a>><br>
> ?<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>> Should it have a position?<br>
><br>
> If it has a position, what should it be doing to advance that position?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Matt<br>
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