I could argue as a politics student and history
enthusiast that those
countries, with the exception of Germany, are not federal in structure
and so this becomes an argument of federalism vs centralism. and yes,
in answer to Bao Loc, I believe SA and VIC have the best
education systems in Australia, speaking as a Western Australian with
no investment in any state but my own, primarily because of innovative
developments and ideas which have been implemented - and, unlike in my
state, haven't gone belly up - over the last 15 years in both states.
Victoria was the first state in Australia to use Common Assessment
Tasks as a basis for assessment and oddly a lot of the CAT stuff has
ended up in other states in some form although not as an official part
of the system - but they're well designed and flexible. SA has a
multiplicity and diversity of approaches that answers the needs of
varied levels of ability, particularly at the year 11-12 stage. NSW
effectively
has the system all three states left behind 10-15 years ago in almost
its pure form. Students who come here from NSW (and I worked at a
school with quite a few of them at one stage) have a real hard time
adapting, even the bright ones - our system is less rigid and
prescriptive and it's a different mindset they need to manage within
it. But this is a Wikimedia Australia
mailing list so I'll respect that we are going off topic. :)<br><br>cheers<br>Andrew<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/12/1 Liam Wyatt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:liamwyatt@gmail.com">liamwyatt@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I think regardless of your opinion of the relative merits of the various high-school matriculation exams, none of the states will be relinquishing control of their system to the federal gov't any time soon. <br>
<br>I am very happy with the quality of the NSW HSC programme and cannot speak for the quality of any of the other States, but I would swap that in a second for a truly national curriculum/programme. IMO it is ridiculous for a nation of <25M people to have 5+ education systems that are not compatible. Russia has 1 for its huge landmass. France, Germany, England (and presumably many Asian countries) have 1 each and they have far more students than we do. Why can't we - because the Constitution says so... Bah!<br>
<br>-Liam<br><br><div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/1/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bao-Loc Nguyen</b> <<a href="mailto:blnguyen2230@gmail.com" target="_blank">blnguyen2230@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<span>"There are state politics and rivalries involved and in particular South
Australia and Victoria will refuse to go backwards to accommodate NSW"<br><br></span>You're saying you think SA has a stronger system than NSW?<br><br>Or that SA define going backwards as going forwards or vice versa<br>
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