<div dir="ltr">2008/10/8 <span dir="ltr">David Gerard <<a href="mailto:wikimediaau-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org">wikimediaau-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br><br></span><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
2008/10/5 Orderinchaos78 <<a href="mailto:orderinchaos78@gmail.com">orderinchaos78@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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> Re concessions, perhaps a safe definition would be:<br>
> * Holder of a Centrelink Health Care Card.<br>
> - or -<br>
> * Full time student enrolment at a recognised Australian institution (high<br>
> school, TAFE, tertiary). For the most part people in this category will have<br>
> the Centrelink card but not all will (even though they're eligible)<br>
> That's worked for most of the organisations I've been associated with.<br>
> They're both pretty easy to prove, and the Health Care Card means we don't<br>
> need to worry about the reason for the card which is issued in a huge array<br>
> of categories.<br>
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List that as requirements, certainly (and I'm sure people will alert<br>
the organisation to categories that have been missed) - but unless<br>
there's a legal reason to require it, I suggest just taking it on good<br>
faith of the applicant for now. People don't generally cheat on this<br>
stuff when it comes to charities. And more bureaucracy and paperwork =<br>
bad.</blockquote><div><br>Totally agreed. I hope it was understood that the purpose of having such a delineation is to help people decide whether they would be concessional or not, rather than imposing bureaucratic and resource burdens on a fledgling organisation. We pretty much then rely on people's honesty from that point, and I agree with you that, especially since at present the stakes are ridiculously low. As an example - when I joined a political party, I paid the concessional rate and ticked the box, but noone ever asked for my health care card (which I could produce to them on request, which I understand would be the assumption).<br>
<br>It would require both resources and a notion of something being rorted to actually require *presentation* of it. Might be useful to set a boundary though if we get bigger and/or more is at stake.<br><br>cheers<br>Andrew<br>
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