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<div><br></div><div>Regarding the definition of Concession, which Brian pointed out we still need to do. Can I suggest that we do not make up our own rules but rather that we define it by someone else's standards (or an aggregate of several standards). This has the twofold advantage of greater legitimacy in our decision in the even that someone contests their non-concession status and also is easier to come by. </div><div><br></div><div>I suggestion some organisations that bear looking at are:</div><div>Centerlink <a href="http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/payments/conc_cards.htm">http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/payments/conc_cards.htm</a></div><div>Cityrail <a href="http://www.cityrail.info/fares/concessions.jsp">http://www.cityrail.info/fares/concessions.jsp</a></div><div>Metlink <a href="http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/fares_tickets/concessions">http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/fares_tickets/concessions</a></div><div><br></div><div>I note that ComputerBank, who has generously hosted Wikimeetings before in Melbourne also has a concession-card policy <a href="http://www.computerbank.org.au">http://www.computerbank.org.au</a>/ perhaps they should be consulted on their definitions. </div><div><br></div><div>Also, </div><div>We would need not just a way of registering the fact of membership (and payment) for internal purposes but we also need to produce a snazzy membership card. This does not necessarily have to have any benifits attached to it at the moment but it will be necessary in order to provide physical proof of membership to the person who has just forked over $20/$40. Actually giving someone a piece of plastic has great psychological benefits in convincing them we are legit and not just taking their money for beer. </div><div><br></div><div>Finally, I'm not so sure that applying for an ABN is actually that difficult - I've not done the research yet (bit busy with the final fortnight of my thesis!!) but from anecdotal evidence it is a matter of filling in a form and ponying up the cash. Given we're already registered as an organisation it shouldn't be too hard to get the office of fair trading to recognise us. As boring as it is, I maintain the conviction that getting tax-deductability is absolutely crucial to our long-term success. I'll take this one on as my personal responsability to follow through unless anyone else wants to :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div>-Liam</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>wikipediaweekly.org</div><div>Skype - Wittylama</div><div>Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]]</div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On 30/09/2008, at 5:58 PM, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 05:33:59PM +1000, Liam Wyatt wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think the issue is not so much the organising of an AGM per se, but <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">rather the status of all the things that lead up to that point.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Specifically:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- A bank account</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- A membership application/confirmation system</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- A payment system</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- An ABN</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- A certificate of incorporation</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- Approved Statement of Purpose by the Chapters Committee</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- An interim committee</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">We have 5, 6 and 7. That is, we are incororporated, we are approved by</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the WMF and there is a committee. ! is also, I believe done. We have a</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">membership application form. What we need to do primarily is:-</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1. Decide on the membership fees of confirm the $40 ($20 concession) that</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">was earlier in the rules.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2. Define concession.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3. Call for people to apply for membership and send in money.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I do not think we need an ABN at this stage. It could be argued that</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">having one would be more trouble than it is worth, as the paper work is</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">large, until we are doing more business than just getting in membership</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">fees.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I too urge the commitee to work through these last steps.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Brian.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div></body></html>