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I appreciate your concern P. and thanks for the 'heads up'. Let's discuss this further over a couple of beers at the Paragon at the meetup (I'm coming). <div>In general I would agree with you about the concern for looking insensitive discussing literacy levels etc. but this is in the context of a project to increase literacy levels by a national literacy NGO. The fact that this particular aboriginal community has low literacy levels (and therefore low competence in using the internet) is bold-font front and center!</div><div><br></div><div>-Liam</div><div><br><div><div><div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Email - <a href="mailto:liamwyatt@gmail.com">liamwyatt@gmail.com</a></div><div>Phone - +61 (0)439 954 269</div><div>Skype - Wittylama</div><div>Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]]</div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 03/08/2008, at 10:40 AM, private musings wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir="ltr">leaving aside the discussions of whether or not this might be an 'official' project for a mo... I've really got to pull you up a bit Liam, on some of your previous comment. I have no doubt that you're well intentioned (smart, lucid and good looking too!) - but you may be unaware of the ways your comments can be construed - particularly on a public mailing list with an akashic record....<br> <br>You can cause terrible offense by discussing low literacy levels, and technological competencies in such ways without huge sensitivity - and I'm afraid I feel that I feel you could do better in that department... I can't agree at all with your comments as written. <br> <br>Talk of 'good PR' is also (at best) somewhat reckless, for similar reasons.<br><br>We need to be a bit more responsible in the way this discussion evolves - but to reiterate my perspective on the issue of Aboriginal Language wikipedia/s - I would certainly love to roll my sleeves up and contribute in making connections to communities (I have some in mind), and evaluating the possibilites of partnership with both governmental bodies, and NGOs - my feeling is that there may be many happy to work with us. I'd suggest this sort of work be co-ordinated over at meta somewhere perhaps? - or maybe on 'our' site as and when it's born.....<br> <br>I'd be really proud to help here - and think it could be a hugely valuable initiative. <br><br>cheers,<br><br>Peter<br>PM.<br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Wikimediaau-l mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org">Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l</a></div> </div><br></div></div></div></div></body></html>