Folks, it's not clear this email thread is going to register at all as
feedback for this process.
The only recognized feedback mechanisms according to the original mail are
the following:
1. Wikimedia Space group -
Currently 13 members
2.
No new conversations
3.
A dialogue that has been started to discuss the problems of the KPIs and
metrics.
I'd highly suggest if you want to make your feedback count, you go to these
venues.
-Andrew
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:32 PM Ferdinando Traversa <ferdi.traversa(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
It’ll be a very very important RFC. More than
elections, it’s about all
global identity.
CentralNotice is appropriate.
Ferdinando
Il giorno 7 set 2019, alle ore 22:06, David
Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
I concur, it sounds sensible.
(I'll note, I'm not actually against the name change proposal - but
it's got to be presented to the community properly.)
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:50, Kiril Simeonovski
<kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> HI David,
>
> Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as
the
> announcements about board or steward
elections.
>
> Best,
> Kiril
>
>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On all wikis?
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Right.
>>>
>>> I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Yaroslav
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski <
>>> kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about
>> this,
>>>> so we can safely move forward with it and close this thread.
>> Otherwise, we
>>>> will most likely keep up boggling our minds with the 20-per-cent
>> metric and
>>>> endlessly discuss how unfortunate is this for the global community
>> when the
>>>> only rational thing we can do is take action and save everyone's
time.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any concluding remarks or comments regarding the RfC?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Kiril
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:57 PM Ferdinando Traversa <
>>>> ferdi.traversa(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m against and sincerly I don’t trust this datas (80% agrees? Are
>> you
>>>>> kidding me? I’ve seen the meta discussion). I think a Meta CLEAR
>> VOTE as
>>>>> suggested here is the best way. Imposing a change like this is a
>> wrong
>>>>> decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno 6 set 2019, alle ore 05:49, Zack McCune <
>>>> zmccune(a)wikimedia.org>
>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Summary* - We want your help with a voluntary, OPT-IN design
>> process
>>>> for
>>>>>> movement branding. Please join the in-depth discussion group,
or
>> watch
>>>>> for
>>>>>> updates on Meta-Wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After 4 months of community consultation, spanning dozens of
>>>> affiliates,
>>>>>> several mailing lists, community conferences, and Meta-Wiki, I
am
>>>> pleased
>>>>>> to share a summary of feedback on the proposed 2030 movement
brand
>>>>> strategy
>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual
>> contributors
>>>> and
>>>>>> 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reducing confusion
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Protecting reputation
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Supporting sister projects
>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Addressing (legal, governmental) risks
>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Supporting movement growth
>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The process of change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please visit our feedback summary page to learn more [2]. You
will
>> see
>>>>>> examples of comments within each section, along with a rough
>> indication
>>>>> of
>>>>>> how many of the comments that we received were related to each
>> theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The comments sometimes contradict one another, showing that
across
>> our
>>>>> wide
>>>>>> movement’s experience, different points of view are common (and
a
>> sign
>>>> of
>>>>>> health!). To visualize these tensions, we have created “polarity
>> maps”
>>>>>> which are used to help visualize how different arguments coexist
in
>>>>> tension
>>>>>> with each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ultimately, the comments provided from you all are very
thoughtful
>> and
>>>>>> useful guidance on what is needed to make our movement’s
branding
>>>>>> successful. One can read the 6 themes above as “criteria” for
>> assessing
>>>>>> branding systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> == Thanks ==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to thank the organizers of Iberoconf, Wikipedia
>> Education
>>>>>> Summit, and the Wikimedia Summit for inviting us to hold
>> discussions
>>>>> during
>>>>>> their sessions. I would also like to thank my colleagues Elena
>> Lappen,
>>>>>> Samir Elsharbaty, and Blanca Flores who conducted extensive
parts
>> of
>>>> this
>>>>>> consultation. To the hundreds of people, and dozens of
affiliates
>>>>>> commenting, thank you for reviewing the proposal and offering
your
>>>>>> perspectives and insights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> == Next steps and staying involved ==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general
>>>> appetite
>>>>>> to improve our movement’s branding system. Further, we believe
that
>>>>>> critical feedback on the proposal offers direct guidance for
>> precisely
>>>>> what
>>>>>> branding must do to be successful for our movement. We have
shared
>>>> these
>>>>>> insights and our proposed continuance with the Board of
Trustees,
>> who
>>>>>> approved continuing these efforts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Acting on community insights, we will be collaborating on formal
>> brand
>>>>>> naming, visual identity, and brand system design that will use
>>>>> “Wikipedia”
>>>>>> as the central reference point. The resulting system will be
>> OPT-IN for
>>>>>> affiliates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This design process will be guided by a “brand network” – a
group
>> of
>>>>>> volunteers who would like to continue advising on brand during
this
>>>>>> consultation. Dozens of people have already volunteered, and we
>> invite
>>>>> you
>>>>>> to join the group. We will use a group on Wikimedia Space to
host
>> this
>>>>>> discussion and the group will be closed to allow candid
>> discussions and
>>>>>> room for iterations. EVERYONE IS INVITED TO JOIN [3]. If you do
not
>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>>> commit to the in-depth, longer term discussions that will be
>> happening
>>>>>> within the brand network group, we will still be tracking
comments
>> left
>>>>> on
>>>>>> the project’s Meta-Wiki page [4]. Furthermore, all important
ideas
>> and
>>>>>> updates originating from the brand network discussion will be
>> shared
>>>>>> publicly to mailing lists and Meta-Wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The development of this proposed identity system will take
>>>> approximately
>>>>> 6
>>>>>> months. As stated, regular updates will be shared to mailing
lists,
>>>>>> Wikimedia Space, and Meta-Wiki [4]. Please engage us where you
are
>> most
>>>>>> comfortable! Once complete, community groups will have the power
to
>>>>> decide
>>>>>> if/when they opt in to using the new system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/02/26/leading-with-wikipedia-a-br…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_resear…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [3]
https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network and click
>> the
>>>> gray
>>>>>> "Request" button. When your request is approved, you
will be able
>> to
>>>> see
>>>>>> and access the brand network discussion category on the Discuss
>> Space
>>>>> main
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_resear…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zack McCune (he/him)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Director of Brand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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