This is really helpful.
To clarify:
Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia
has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy?
How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"?
Are the "Proposed" policies enforced?
Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no
Child Protection Policy at all?
I'll follow up on the issue of harassment policy in another thread,
since it seems like Child Protection Policy has been addressed
specifically with its own policies.
Thanks, all!
,Wil
for how
policies on Wikipedia "work". The Terms of Service Federico pointed at are
probably "different", but I don't know how different.
--Martijn
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk>
wrote:
I suppose the caveat would be that what actually
happens may be
*broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal
information on a pre-emptive basis)
On the English Wikipedia, see also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents
In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's
versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was
"adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general
content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a
similar source, but you may want to check this.
The Commons policy is at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection
- also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'.
There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010;
however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably
conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this
tag :-)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection
The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there
had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues)
and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has
been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012...
Andrew.
On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair <wllm(a)wllm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection
>>> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community
>>> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all
>>> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
>>>
>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>>
>>> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining
>>> to child protection that I might have missed?
>>>
>>> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP
>>> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has
>>> comments beyond links to current policy statements.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> ,Wil
>>
>>
>> English Wikipedia policy:
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
>>
>> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated
debate
>> since its creation, although there is
some truth that its original form
>> more or less documented existing practice at the time.
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>
> Right.
>
> I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be
implemented by most senior experienced admins. It documented existing very
poorly publicized informal practice in that regard.
>
> There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair,
reasonable, appropriate.
>
> As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding
to
threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based
top down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting
what was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as
precedent.
>
> This is perhaps not the best process. However, even in the absence of
total
community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior
community members will act to protect individual people and the community
and encyclopedia and foundation. It seems to be agreed that documenting
usual parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a
net positive.
>
>
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert(a)gmail.com
>
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