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[mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of rupert THURNER
Sent: 08 June 2014 17:27
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA
Would it make sense to deploy a server in another country under a domain not owned by the
foundation? E.g. Switzerland?
Rupert
Am 08.06.2014 14:10 schrieb "Jeevan Jose" <jkadavoor(a)gmail.com>om>:
BTW, why we have separate policies for Commons and
Wikipedia? I just
noticed that photographs deleted from Common per "not free in source
country" are restored by our own (Commons) admins in English Wikipedia.
Jee
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8 June 2014 12:21, matanya
<matanya(a)foss.co.il> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Commons licensing policy determines media should be free in source
> country and in US. I want to propose We change the policy to be:
> "free in source country" only, and to cope with US laws where the
> servers are hosted found a "DMCA take down notice" Team in OTRS,
> that will handle requests to remove Items that are non-free in the
> US after verifying proper grounds for the claim.
>
> This approach to copyright will prevent issues like URAA issues,
shorter
term
issues and restored copyright issues.
No it it won't. UK restored a bunch of copyrights when EU went
life+70
It will enrich commons with many files that are FREE (mostly PD)
in source country, but not on commons due to US laws. Unless the
copyright holder (mostly Gov's and archives) will not request
removal, and they won't since they released the media, we will be using those files.
If the government held the copyright then you contact them and ask
them about their position on potential overseas copyrights.
> I'm not a lawyer, so I probably missed most of the legal
> implication, But I do volunteer to found and lead the team, if
> this idea is accepted and commons community would want this policy
> change. I'm seeking input from copyright experienced users and
> lawyers, before i start an
official
policy
change on commons.
The main problem that you hit is that "free in source country and
in
US"
is a pretty good proxy for "free pretty much
anywhere" (well unless
the source country is the US but that's a separate problem). For
example depending on how you read Saudi law there are a bunch of
photos that are free in Saudi Arabia and pretty much nowhere else
(Switzerland perhaps)
but
unless our resuser know their way around over 100
copyright systems
they probably aren't going to know that. Thus from a reuse POV
commons goes
from
being useful (as long as you allow for US
weirdness) to being (from
a copyright perspective) a radioactive mess.
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