[Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

from my point of view, it would be really great if there was more feedback
from the community on the FDC proposals, but I also understand that reading
detailed proposals is not necessarily something that many active members
have the necessary time for.

I think it is clear that the community can provide valuable feedback,
although any feedback just in itself should not be the purpose in its own,
right?

best,

dariusz


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski <tomasz at twkozlowski.net
> wrote:

> Steven,
> I am actually disappointed to see you bring such an example to back up a
> thesis that -- that's the impression I'm getting -- the community cannot
> provide valuable feedback on budget-related matters.
>
> The experience that I have is quite opposite: as far as I am aware,
> community members have been providing fantastic feedback for all kinds of
> issues, including financial ones (with the GAC, which is a community
> committee, being the most prominent example).
>
>
>  In this case I think the answer is that it would suck time and energy from
>> budget planning and would not add much real value to the budget other than
>> warm and fuzzy feelings. The amount of transparency would also not be
>> substantively increased, because we already publish the WMF budget and
>> annual plan, and respond to inquiries about it.
>>
>
> As I wrote in one of my previous e-mails, there is very little point in
> providing feedback/commenting on something that's already been adopted and
> put into motion. It would be much more inviting and empowering for
> community members if they could comment on an actual plan, with the feeling
> that their feedback might actually be put into consideration and make a
> difference.
>
> Commenting on a budget for a fiscal year that starts in on July 1 in
> August does not give that feeling--let us just take this year's annual plan
> as an example: <https://wikimediafoundation.**org/w/index.php?title=File:*
> *2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_**Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf<https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf>>
> was only published on July 28. That getting feedback on budget might suck
> time and energy from Foundation staff is probably of little concern for
> community members.
>
>         -- Tomasz
>
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