[Wikimedia-l] : Copyright of deep space objects (DSOs) outside of the solar system

Strainu strainu10 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 13:41:07 UTC 2012


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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2012/09#Potential_deletion_of_all_deep_space_objects

2012/9/17 John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com>:
> Where is the onwiki discussion about this? I could find '[1]'
>
> Or a wikipedia page that describes the copyright status of imagery of DSOs?
>
> John Vandenberg.
> sent from Galaxy Note
> On Sep 15, 2012 1:25 PM, "とある白い猫" <to.aru.shiroi.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hi,
>>
>>   I am not seeking legal advice. I am asking the pursuit of the issue. I am
>> not a US citizen so I do not have a congress person to contact. The laws
>> governing copyright can be amended to address the issue of deep space
>> objects (DSO). I do not expect a result next week, I merely want the issue
>> to enter into an agenda of some sort. If the Foundation is going to take
>> the lead, this probably would only be possible through a board decision. In
>> such a case I want to work with people to come up with such a draft
>> proposal to the board.
>>
>>   I realize this is an unusual request but there seems to be a lack of
>> clarity on this issue[1]. Argument is that copyright can be an issue since
>> not every organization observing or assisting NASA's observations are
>> PD-USgov compatible. We may be forced to permanently delete all deep space
>> objects as a result.
>>
>>   I'd like to provide a short technical explanation why copyright of deep
>> space objects or DSOs (objects outside of the solar system) are
>> meaningless. For ordinary photographs copyright is determined by factors
>> such as lighting, perspective, exposure and other such settings that
>> creates a different image of the same object. You can distinguish the
>> difference between a daylight photo and an evening photo.
>>
>>   With deep space objects however, even the stellar parallax[2] has a very
>> small value. The closest object outside of the solar system is 4.24 light
>> years (268,136 AU's) away. The semi-major axis of earth is about 1AUs. The
>> difference in perspective is like looking at a 2cm (width of a nickel) wide
>> object 5.3km (3.29 miles) away and the perspective difference is switching
>> left eye to the right eye. We lack scientific instruments to even detect a
>> stellar parallax for objects much further. In other words our perspective
>> of the nearest star and beyond is more or less constant and the objects
>> themselves look the same for hundreds of years.
>>
>>   So any photo of a deep space object I or someone else takes from the
>> solar system will look identical regardless of when and where on earth I
>> take it within multiple lifetimes. I think this can bring legal precedent
>> for us to either disregard any copyright claim or at least pursue lawmakers
>> in congress to amend the copyright law to make an exception in the law.
>> People who worked with congress such as Neil Degrasse Tyson could be
>> consulted to this end. Also international treaties[3] can be consulted to
>> this end as copyrighting photos of deep space objects could be interpreted
>> as an unfair exploitation of resources.
>>
>>   I realize this reads like something out of Star Trek but this is growing
>> to be quite a problem as we see more and more weird copyright claims even
>> when dealing with NASA which traditionally had a PD-USgov mentality. NASA
>> regularly contracts its more recent projects and to be fair we do not know
>> how NASA contracts these projects which could potentially lead
>> to legitimate copyright claims in the future.
>>
>>
>> [1]:
>>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Potential_deletion_of_all_deep_space_objects
>>
>> [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_parallax
>>
>> [3]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_law#International_treaties
>>
>>   -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
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