[Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

Ziko van Dijk vandijk at wmnederland.nl
Thu Apr 12 22:12:02 UTC 2012


Hello, I accompany people in real life mostly in an early phase, or I
supervise them in a way that the result is not problematic. How people
later survive onwiki on their own - I usually don't come to know. We
discussed this in Germany and thought that for privacy reasons we also
don't want follow people from the courses. If they later write me an
e-mail, I woudl know (I put a pile of business cards on my desk), but
this hardly ever happens.

We have booklets from WMDE (1x1, Wikimedia Commons), but frankly, I am
not very happy with them. For starters, they have no page numbers, so
you can't simple tell people to look at a certain page for a certain
code... we really need some good teaching aids, for specific lessons.

Kind regards
Ziko



2012/4/12 Heather Ford <hford at ushahidi.com>:
> Thanks, Ziko. That's really interesting and sounds like an effective way of getting them started.
>
> I'm curious what kinds of problems people contact you about when they start editing for real?
>
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Myself, I have a presentation which shows a basic wiki principle; I
>> noticed that showing the same thing onwiki would make me jumping too
>> much from page to page.
>> Showing Wikipedia functionalities then onwiki I call "Wikipedia
>> surfing" (version history, talk pages etc.).
>> If it is a workshop with the intention to make people edit then I
>> create a "pseudo encyclopedia" on user subpages. That's a number of
>> simplified Wikipedia articles with hardly any markup. From article to
>> article, the complexity and amount of wikisyntax grows. The newbies in
>> groups of 2 correct the language and content (I put in some errors for
>> them).
>> I prefer that because editing real WP makes people anxious, and I want
>> to be undisturbed with the newbies.
>> Kind regards
>> Ziko
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/4/11 Heather Ford <hford at ushahidi.com>:
>>> Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy:
>>>
>>> What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? At Wikipedia Academies etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks in anticipation :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Heather.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heather Ford
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> Heather Ford
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