[Foundation-l] Potential ICRA labels for Wikipedia

K. Peachey p858snake at yahoo.com.au
Mon May 10 23:41:25 UTC 2010


I've read most of the replies in this thread, And i think I should
point out a few things out:

* The "omg tagging for any reason is censorship" mentality is a
needless, Yes we tag things presently *shock horror* look at the
currently category system.

* Omg adding this to Mediawiki will destroy Wikipedia.... Currently
Mediawiki is a separate application from wiki and always will be,
Wikipedia is just a site that uses Mediawiki for it's back end. Just
because Mediawiki supports something, doesn't mean it will be
activated (or in the case of extensions, installed) on Wikipedia and
Wikipedia isn't the only site that uses Mediawiki.
  ** Currently there are two discussions about possible implementation:
     A) Bug 982: Is referring to a EXTENSION that provides the
functionality of tagging content (with it's current discussion being
pointed at ICRA) so it has a rating of sorts which can be used by
external sources (AKA filtering companies)
     B) The discussion on wikitech-l is currently discussing a way
(either extension or a core functionality) to accurately grab the
contents of a category and provide it in a usable interface so that
again, it can be used by third parties. Currently this discussions has
hardly approached the rating system discussion (who it would be done?
own internal scale? some sort of standard out there?).

* The lesser of two evils, Currently there is no easy way to get a
list of the files (and their file paths) of images contained within a
category, This can be applied for multiple things (bots for example)
but use, the discussion is primarily about  a exportable format so a
machine can easily use it. Schools and Filter providers are currently
blocking whole W* projects because there are no easy ways to do it.
Unfortunately the lesser of the two evils is allow a easy way for a
company to get a list of what is contained in a certain category (Eg:
Category:Images of BDSM) and then import that into the filtering
system to block them compared to the whole project.


JUST A REMINDER: The current discussions are revolving around
implementations in Mediawiki as either as a core functionality (like
most of these, being enabled/disabledable) or as a extension, and not
of how to implement this in the WMF hemisphere of projects such as for
example commons.




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