[Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 06:30:05 UTC 2009


Hoi,
The one reason why I read the Signpost is because it posts a table of
contents on a blog that is aggregated. <grin> Advertisement works, it gets
it more readers </grin>
Thanks,
        GerardM

2009/9/8 Michael Snow <wikipedia at verizon.net>

> Sage Ross wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzas<midom.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Gerard,
> >>
> >>> Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the
> >>> place
> >>> to announce such things.
> >>>
> >> it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not
> >> your business :)
> >>
> >> BR,
> >>
> > I guess I shouldn't have stopped reading this thread so early on.
> >
> > I wrote "News and notes" this week but I didn't end up mentioning the
> > sub-lease/move in this week's Signpost because it just didn't seem
> > very important. But I do consider it part of the Signpost's mission to
> > report on Foundation matters, and more than that, to help push for WMF
> > transparency and accountability to the community.
> >
> > I don't like the idea that what the Signpost does is "our" business
> > and not "your" business, for various intracommunity values of us and
> > you.  Despite being based on en.wp, we're trying to become more useful
> > to the broader Wikimedia community/communities.  (To that end,
> > OhanaUnited is reviving the Sister Project Interviews series:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:OhanaUnited/Sister_Projects_Interview
> > .  And both news reports from other projects and reflective pieces
> > about what it's like to work on individual non-English projects versus
> > their English counterparts are very welcome.)
> >
> > The "we" of the Signpost is anyone from the Wikimedia community who
> > wants to contribute.
> >
> Just to chime in, figuring my perspective from the early days of the
> Signpost might be useful. From the beginning I knew that we had people
> reading from outside the English Wikipedia, and there's always been
> interest in building off that framework for cross-project exchange of
> news, whether it's the English-speaking audience learning about the work
> in other languages, or getting news from English out to those languages.
> That was, is, and should always be encouraged.
>
> This simply reflects that the Signpost is for the benefit of the
> community, however broadly that may be defined, and should look to that
> for guidance in its coverage. In that sense, if Gerard reads the
> Signpost, it is his business what he wants to hear about. I would hope
> that was mostly focused on making it more thorough and comprehensive,
> though. Strictly speaking it's correct that the Signpost is not the
> place for us (in this case, "us" meaning the Wikimedia Foundation) to
> announce things, because it's independent of the foundation, but the
> implication that it's not something people should expect to read about
> in the Signpost would be a mistake.
>
> Finally, as valuable as both the Signpost and Wikizine are, along with
> this list and all other ways to disseminate information, no single
> source can be the magic bullet to reach everyone. In working toward
> that, we need to exercise our cultural value of sharing knowledge, so if
> you have information that is appropriate to share, pass it on to those
> who would like to know about it.
>
> --Michael Snow
>
>
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