I think that this is a good time for newbie editors to read :<br><ul><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Inline_citation" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Inline_citation</a></li><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Inline_citations" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Inline_citations</a></li>
</ul>before they read the rest of the post.<br><br>To Swaroop, Ideally a set of sentences all described in a para may be given a ref like this:<br><br>This is Sentence 1. This is Sentence 2. This is Sentence 3. This is Sentence 4.<ref>Single reference for all these sentences.</ref><br>
<br>But we may not prefer to do that in such cases where the text flow may be jeopardised due to lot of information which may be added. The section "<span style="margin-right:0.2em">Legacy and depictions in popular culture"</span>and the following sections are ones where you can expect lots of editors to add lots of trivia. The original structure will break and the references will seperate.<br>
<br>So I have seperated the two sentences and converted the reference from a simple reference to a list-defined reference and added the short reference form to the second form.<br><br>See the diff:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&action=historysubmit&diff=470963464&oldid=470948182" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&action=historysubmit&diff=470963464&oldid=470948182</a>.<br>
<br>For those still wondering -<br><br>simple reference - <ref>A simple reference</ref><br>list-defined reference -<ref name="Refname">A list defined reference</ref><br><br>When re-using a list-defined reference again, just use <ref name="Refname"/>.<br>
<br>In the Reflist the reference does not repeated but gets superscript prefixes, a, b, c, etc depending upon how often the list-define reference is used. Each of the superscipts if pressed goes to the place where it is usedin the text.<br>
<br>Of course others may choose to combine the sentence into one, which is also an accepted approach.<br><br>Warm regards,<br><br>Ashwin Baindur<br>------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/12 Swaroop Rao <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raul.swaroop@gmail.com" target="_blank">raul.swaroop@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I don't know if this is with the flow of the class, but I want to make a note about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&oldid=470924101#cite_ref-151" target="_blank">ref 152</a>. Since the article cited makes note of both the temples, the ref should go at the end of the next sentence. </div>
<div><br></div><br clear="all">Swaroop Rao<br>(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch" target="_blank">MikeLynch</a>)<br><br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/12 Ashwin Baindur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ashwin.baindur@gmail.com" target="_blank">ashwin.baindur@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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For "<span>by searching for "Tagore coined the term Mahatma" on Google"<br><br>Read "</span><span>by searching for "Tagore coined the term Mahatma" on <i><u><b>Google Books</b></u></i>"</span><div>
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<br clear="all">Warm regards,<br><br>Ashwin Baindur<br>------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ashwin Baindur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ashwin.baindur@gmail.com" target="_blank">ashwin.baindur@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Referencing Tip #1 - <b>Use Google Books to replace unverifiable references.</b> <br><br>For a subject like Gandhi, you will often come across references such as this:<br><br><b><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&oldid=470829986#cite_ref-5" target="_blank">^</a></b> <span>Bhattacharya, Sabyasachi (1997). <i>The Mahatma and the Poet</i>. New Delhi: National Book Trust, India. p. 1.<br>
<br>(reference 6 on this oldid - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&oldid=470829986" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi&oldid=470829986</a>)<br>
<br>The reference was for Rabindranath Tagore being the person who coined the term "Mahatma" for Gandhi.<br><br>Instead, by searching for "Tagore coined the term Mahatma" on Google, I got lots of links, a few with preview.<br>
<br>I immediately find this link:<br>
</span><div><h3><a href="http://books.google.co.in/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15&dq=Tagore+coined+the+term+Mahatma&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg" target="_blank">Indian English poetry and fiction: critical elucidations: Volume 1 - Page 15</a></h3>
</div><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-top:2px" valign="top" width="49"><a href="http://books.google.co.in/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15&dq=Tagore+coined+the+term+Mahatma&hl=en&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=3&ved=0CEUQ6wEwAg" target="_blank"><img src="" alt="" style="display:inline-block;min-height:80px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;width:49px" width="49" align="middle" border="1" height="80"></a></td>
<td style="padding-left:7px" valign="top"><div><cite><a href="http://books.google.co.in" target="_blank">books.google.co.in</a></cite><span style="white-space:normal"><a href="http://www.google.co.in/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=33v&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1280&bih=842&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Amar+Nath+Prasad%22&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEMQ9Ag" target="_blank">Amar Nath Prasad</a>, <a href="http://www.google.co.in/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=33v&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1280&bih=842&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Amar+Nath+Prasad%22&q=inauthor:%22A.N.+Prasad+Rajiv+K.Malik%22&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEQQ9Ag" target="_blank">A.N. Prasad Rajiv K.Malik</a> - 2007 - 269 pages - <a href="http://books.google.co.in/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15&dq=Tagore+coined+the+term+Mahatma&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEYQuwUwAg" target="_blank">Full view</a></span><br>
<table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><span>It was <i>Tagore</i>, who popularized the <i>term</i> "<i>Mahatma</i>"- great soul as a description of Gandhi. <b>...</b> His fame rested partly on his charisma-a world that might have been <i>invented</i> for <i>Tagore</i> — which was experienced at first hand in many <b>...</b></span></td>
</tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>So when I click the link, i reach this page, <br><br><a href="http://books.google.co.in/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15&dq=Tagore+coined+the+term+Mahatma&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Tagore%20coined%20the%20term%20Mahatma&f=false" target="_blank">http://books.google.co.in/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15&dq=Tagore+coined+the+term+Mahatma&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IpQOT9TpEYjUrQetj6XsAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Tagore%20coined%20the%20term%20Mahatma&f=false</a><br>
<br>which works admirably as a reference:<br><br><i>It was Tagore who popularised the term "Mahatma" - Great soul, as a description of Gandhi. <br><br></i>So just pickup the page url & add it to reftag<i><br>
<br></i><a href="http://reftag.appspot.com/" target="_blank">http://reftag.appspot.com/</a><i><br><br></i>and bang!<i> </i>RefTag gives you a ready made WikiText reference to use<i>:<br><br><ref name="PrasadMalikPrasad2007">{{cite book|last1=Prasad|first1=Amar Nath|last2=Malik|first2=Rajiv K.|last3=Prasad |first3=A.N. |title=Indian English poetry and fiction: critical elucidations|url=<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15%7Caccessdate=12" target="_blank">http://books.google.com/books?id=g2DHBzEO9UEC&pg=PA15|accessdate=12</a> January 2012|date=1 November 2007|publisher=Sarup & Sons|isbn=978-81-7625-730-5|page=15}}</ref><br>
<br></i>Just add it instead to the article instead of the unverifiable reference & you only need to save.<br><i><br></i>Actually, since I used a different search term, I found another reference for the article instead of the one above.<i><br>
<br></i><span>Richard L. Johnson; Gandhi (Mahatma) (2006). <a rel="nofollow" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=dRQcKsx-YgQC&pg=PA279" target="_blank"><i>Gandhi's experiments with truth: essential writings by and about Mahatma Gandhi</i></a>. Lexington Books. p. 279. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number" title="International Standard Book Number" target="_blank">ISBN</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-7391-1143-7" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-7391-1143-7" target="_blank">978-0-7391-1143-7</a><span>. Retrieved 12 January 2012</span>.</span><div>
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<br clear="all">Warm regards,<br><br>Ashwin Baindur<br>------------------------------------------------------<br>
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