On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Joseph Fox <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josephfoxwiki@gmail.com" target="_blank">josephfoxwiki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Would would money even buy at the bidding stage? Absolutely nothing, unless you count the venue?<div><br></div><div>When did the DC team book their venue? How much was it? (Guessing they got it for nothing, but probably wrong)<br>
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure I follow, but, your assumption here is that the amount would pay for the venue, even before it is decided which city would host the conference? Again, wouldn't every bidding city needed to be afforded the same privilege? or is there actually a reason why the UK bid would be special?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Do I really need to point to Meta and every past wikimania budget, which hardly ever required an upfront amount for the venue, even before a venue was decided, or a bid was considered.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Regards</div><div>Theo</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div>Joe</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 August 2012 21:10, Theo10011 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:de10011@gmail.com" target="_blank">de10011@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I am surprised at the reaction here. Is it so necessary for UK to have a bid or a winning bid at that, that you are willing to break convention, and spend this huge amount on a paid bid.<div><br></div><div>
This is unfair. I don't know the history about the bidding process, but bids that I saw were written by volunteers, some with or without a chapters support, or even knowledge in some cases. What about competing bids, since they can't afford to hire a team to just make a bid that won't be on equal footing, should they just not bother? or ask for the same grant?</div>
<div><br></div><div>What if the UK still loses the bid? that would be donor money down the drain. If WMUK members personally finance this, it is one thing, but using this much money raised in the name of Wikipedia, to finance a bid for a single chapter to host the annual volunteer-run conference, seems very irresponsible, and antithetical to the entire spirit of a volunteer-run event.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Theo</div><div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Thomas Dalton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com" target="_blank">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On 25 August 2012 20:28, Itzik Edri <<a href="mailto:itzik@infra.co.il" target="_blank">itzik@infra.co.il</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sorry, it's undiplomatic to interfere with others budget plans - but I just<br>
> can't ignore how the future of Wikimania will look like if others will<br>
> follow UK plans to invest £40,000 only for the bid process (about 62,000$).<br>
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</div>To be clear, that plan is still in draft, and that particular item has<br>
received plenty of opposition.<br>
<br>
I am in favour of spending money on bids - it is necessary if we want<br>
to get professional quality bids. I am not in favour of spending that<br>
kind of money on bids, though.<br>
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