<p>I think Wikimania 2012 is before Ramadan.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 22, 2011 3:59 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" <<a href="mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com">gerard.meijssen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Hoi,<br>> Having Wikimania during Ramadan will prevent people from attending. The<br>
> dates for Wikimania next year are also likely during Ramadan.<br>> <br>> One way of looking at the absence of the Muslim world is that in Alexandria<br>> there was a sizable group from Israel. In the end it is about taking the<br>
> opportunity. The opportunity for most was there with the exception from for<br>> instance our Iranian friends who are expressly forbidden to come.<br>> Thanks,<br>> Gerard<br>> <br>> 2011/8/21 WereSpielChequers <<a href="mailto:werespielchequers@gmail.com">werespielchequers@gmail.com</a>><br>
> <br>>> I flew home on Friday. Unfortunately I had been unable to find anyone<br>>> capable of printing a Tshirt with "Do I look like the sort of person who<br>>> packs my own luggage?", or at least not on a Tshirt in my size (walrus). And<br>
>> as promised I hadn't made a Wikimania CD.<br>>><br>>> It took me 40 minutes to get through security, check in and passport<br>>> control, and unlike in Heathrow I didn't have to remove my shoes or belt, or<br>
>> even discard my water. After I said that I had received a gift while I was<br>>> in Israel they were a little interested in my Wikimania bag, and I had to<br>>> dig it out of my backpack and let it be cursorily inspected. Maybe next year<br>
>> we can make the bag from Hemp and include in it some sparklers or small<br>>> fireworks for the closing party with perhaps a blade or some scissors for<br>>> people wanting to customise their badges.<br>
>><br>>> As one of those who argued against holding Wikimania in Israel, I must say<br>>> that I was very impressed at how well the whole thing was done. I think<br>>> that the organisers did a brilliant job, I liked the food, and they even had<br>
>> sufficient WiFi. The music at two of the parties was a bit loud for<br>>> socialising, but that's probably me showing my age. However I don't think<br>>> this was really a completely Global Wikimania. As some of us feared it would<br>
>> be, this was a Wikimania that largely missed the Muslim world. I don't think<br>>> that this is the fault of the organisers, but clearly holding our annual<br>>> conference in Israel during Ramadan was not the best way to encourage people<br>
>> from Islamic countries to attend. I hope that in future we can make sure<br>>> that Wikimania is more inclusive than that.<br>>><br>>> WSC<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> 2011/8/18 Harel Cain <<a href="mailto:harel.cain@gmail.com">harel.cain@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>>>> I don't suggest taking the train from Jerusalem to the airport - it takes<br>>>> a very long time - the train to Jerusalem is very slow and is more of a<br>>>> tourist attraction than anything else.<br>
>>><br>>>> It's much, much easier to call a sherut taxi called Nesher which will pick<br>>>> you up from home/hotel and take you to the airport for NIS 58. No security<br>>>> process involved....<br>
>>><br>>>><br>>>> Harel<br>>>><br>>>> 2011/8/17 KIZU Naoko <<a href="mailto:aphaia@gmail.com">aphaia@gmail.com</a>><br>>>><br>>>>> @ TLV T3 Departure floor<br>
>>>><br>>>>> In addition to the previous mails, I'd recommend who plans railway<br>>>>> trip to arrive your departure station enough earlier than your train,<br>>>>> specially if you are in Jerusalem or perhaps a place easy-to-reach<br>
>>>> from the West Bank.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Security check at Malha Jerusalem Station would be as serious as at<br>>>>> the airport. Though they keep being polite but the check on me took<br>
>>>> over 10 minutes. I was asked by two officers respectively to show them<br>>>>> my passport, open every bag, what I bought in the Old City, and then<br>>>>> again explain what almost each item in the bags was, and which places<br>
>>>> I had visited during my ongoing trip, specially in the West Bank,<br>>>>> which Arab countries I had visited both in this particular trip and in<br>>>>> the past and finally if I carried weapons. Finally they had me go<br>
>>>> through with smiles and best wishes on trip, so generally there was no<br>>>>> problem at all, but if my schedule had been tight, it might have<br>>>>> caused problems.<br>>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)<br>>>>> <<a href="mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com">nemowiki@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>> > Federico Leva (Nemo), 17/08/2011 08:59:<br>
>>>> >>> PS: I didn't find them very good-looking either, like someone<br>>>>> claimed.<br>>>>> >><br>>>>> >> Uh? :-? By the way I agree, but looking at some of the lots of the<br>
>>>> >> trainees the situation might improve in the future. :-p<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > Oh, and I forgot to say that one of them was also even drawing (smilies<br>>>>> > etc.) together with a traveler on her to-be-embarked laptop box.<br>
>>>> Perhaps<br>>>>> > she had enough books for her next layover.<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > Nemo<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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