<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <br>
    For me, i think it helped a lot to bring a printed version of that
    announcement from Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Whenever they
    asked me about what i will do/was doing there, i showed that piece
    of paper and then my questions were much more easier than those that
    some of you reported here. The most strange question was "why
    Wikipedia needs volunteers". So maybe those talkings between
    Wikimedia Israel and the airport staff showed some results and seems
    a good idea for every future Wikimania. Every country has some
    restrictions to visitors coming from some other country, i guess, so
    all we can do is trying to facilitate these procedures, and i'm sure
    Israeli team made their best on it.<br>
    <br>
    In Brazil, as in Israel, the security guards were very kind, and all
    i can say is that El-Al is too complicated (messy, disorganized),
    and i have to spend some hours waiting in wrong lines because they
    couldn't explain me where to go. In my way back, i remember a cap
    that i saw in Jerusalem: "my job is so secret i even don't know what
    i'm doing". I think this perfectly applies for El-Al, too. xD<br>
    <br>
    Castelo<br>
    <br>
    Em 11/08/2011 08:03, Itzik Edri escreveu:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOi8FzXf02sWO5UqGYnf7JuLVvSEGwPsPoh+PB3GJy+vWx89WA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hey,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We reads every one of yours emails and twittets. I feel
          shame that things like that happen to part of
          the&nbsp;participates, but other things also need to say - it not
          happen to everyone, and this is the Israeli&nbsp;security&nbsp;process.&nbsp;</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We talked before, and also today with the airport - they
          know about Wikimania group, and they also to&nbsp;expedite
          this&nbsp;process.. The manger told us&nbsp;today&nbsp;that&nbsp;August&nbsp;is the
          most busy month on Ben Gurion - They doing as much as they can
          to make things more quickly for Wikimania&nbsp;participates (so
          again SHOW YOUR TAGS!), but they also
          have&nbsp;security&nbsp;guidelines, that they cannot', in any case,
          exceed them. The&nbsp;security&nbsp;of the other&nbsp;passengers&nbsp;is on their
          highest priority.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The airport&nbsp;security&nbsp;has been asked again to make things
          easier for you, and the staff is doing as much as they can to
          help you - if their is specifies&nbsp;problematic&nbsp;cases, please
          report things to us and we will try to check that with them.
          They really listen to us and want to help us and you - but
          again, their is still orders and&nbsp;guidelines&nbsp;that they must to
          do. Don't know what they, and they of course can't tell us how
          things works and their individual&nbsp;decision&nbsp;(as only small part
          of the 450&nbsp;participates&nbsp;from abroad has "suffer"..)</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Itzik</div>
        <div><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM,
            Harel Cain <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:harel.cain@gmail.com">harel.cain@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
              <div dir="ltr">We at Wikimedia Israel are not ignoring the
                stories told on this thread, actually we're taking them
                very much to heart.<br>
                <br>
                We are now considering a strong letter of complaint to
                various government agencies and a demand for formal
                written apology. Details will follow once we have
                decided on our course of action. <br>
                <font color="#888888">
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Harel Cain<br>
                  Secretary, Wikimedia Israel</font>
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at
                      11:07, James Hare <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:messedrocker@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">messedrocker@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
                        0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                        solid;padding-left:1ex">
                        <div>
                          <div>On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:49 AM, "<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://church.of.emacs.ml"
                              target="_blank">church.of.emacs.ml</a>"
                            &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.com"
                              target="_blank">church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br>
                            <br>
                            &gt; On 08/10/2011 06:05 PM, Sumana
                            Harihareswara wrote:<br>
                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                            &gt;&gt; [&#8230;]<br>
                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                            &gt;&gt; In both cases I was traveling
                            alone. &nbsp;And in both cases I was myself, a<br>
                            &gt;&gt; US citizen whose parents and name
                            and skin color came from South Asia.<br>
                            &gt;&gt; I can't pass as anything else.<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; This is simply racism and harassment.
                            There can be no excuse for that<br>
                            &gt; kind of treatment.<br>
                            &gt; If this is the way even a citizen of
                            the western world is treated, I can<br>
                            &gt; understand very well why there were
                            (almost?) no members of the Arab<br>
                            &gt; world in Israel.<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; I find it regrettable that next
                            Wikimania is going to be in Washington<br>
                            &gt; D.C. Airport harassment might not be as
                            severe as in Israel, but perhaps<br>
                            &gt; severe enough so that Arab Wikimedians
                            are prevented or discouraged from<br>
                            &gt; attending.<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; Don't get me wrong, Wikimania in Israel
                            was fantastic and D.C. will<br>
                            &gt; probably be, too, but we have to focus
                            more on accessibility for *all*<br>
                            &gt; Wikimedians.<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; Regards,<br>
                            &gt; Tobias<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt;
                            _______________________________________________<br>
                            &gt; Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
                            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org"
                              target="_blank">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
                            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l"
                              target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        While no one has the power to exempt anyone from
                        security checks (in fact, whenever former
                        Secretary of State Colin Powell travels, he gets
                        the full check to show that everyone has to
                        follow the rules), we can coordinate with TSA,
                        tell them about our conference (including how
                        tech-oriented some of the attendees are), and
                        ask them for advice to make the security check
                        process as simple as possible. My impression,
                        though, is that while Israeli security focuses
                        on you as a person, TSA mostly focuses on your
                        stuff. Follow all their rules (take out laptop
                        for separate x-ray scan, only small bottles of
                        liquid, etc.) and I think you will be fine, but
                        unfortunately I only have the perspective of a
                        white US citizen.<br>
                        <br>
                        I actually think the bigger obstacle will be
                        obtaining a visa, for those who don't live in
                        visa exempt countries. As mentioned earlier, we
                        will do everything in our power to make the
                        process easier; we will even be looking into
                        visa scholarships. It helps that the US State
                        Department knows what Wikipedia is and that they
                        have sent people to two Wikimanias, 2006 and
                        2011.<br>
                        <font color="#888888"><br>
                          James<br>
                        </font>
                        <div>
                          <div>_______________________________________________<br>
                            Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org"
                              target="_blank">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l"
                              target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <br clear="all">
                    <br>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div class="im">-- <br>
                  Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.<br>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l"
                target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Wikimania-l mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>