<div dir="ltr">We will have photowalks in Bologna, Ferrara and Parma tomorrow. <div>We will have them in Sest San Giovanni, and if I'm not mistake Todi.</div><div><br></div><div>Aubrey</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maarten Deneckere <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maartendeneckere@gmail.com" target="_blank">maartendeneckere@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>I don't think we will gain that much new contributors using a <span lang="en"><span>more</span> <span>prominent sitenotice. Most people just ignore it. Just ask friends and family, do they read that message?<br>
<br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>I organised WLM both in Belgium and South Africa, and I have far better experiences attracting people with a personal approach, eg. real life WLM events, our mailing list, Facebook groups.<br>
<br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>Maybe we can use this mailing list to 'show of' / share more examples?<br><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>To start of, Belgium will promote WLM during two events: next Monday (Antwerp) and next Friday (upload marathon Gent).</span></span><span lang="en"><span>Any more events planned?<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span><br>Groeten, Maarten<br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span><br>
</span></span></div><div><span></span></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/20 Andrea Zanni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zanni.andrea84@gmail.com" target="_blank">zanni.andrea84@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Michael Maggs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael@maggs.name" target="_blank">Michael@maggs.name</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not work in other languages.<div>
<div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I think it's perfect :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Aubrey</div><div><div>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>
e, it sounds very rude.<br></div>I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win... <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div><b>Osmar Valdebenito G.</b><div>Director Ejecutivo</div><div>A. C. Wikimedia Argentina</div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk" target="_blank">richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">This sounds very sensible. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><span>Richard Symonds</span><div>Wikimedia UK</div><div>0207 065 0992</div><div><div><div style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-family:sans-serif;margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael@maggs.name" target="_blank">Michael@maggs.name</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the text for the UK (only) to<div><br></div>
<div><font style="font-size:18px" color="#af2600">Where have you been? Send us some photos!</font></div><div><br></div><div>If anyone objects, please let me know.</div><div><br></div><div>Michael</div><div><br></div><div>
<br><div><div>On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:romaine_wiki@yahoo.com" target="_blank">romaine_wiki@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the CentralNotice is at:<br>
<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice</a></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Discussion kicks off there!</div><div><br></div><div>-- Karthik. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Romaine<br>
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On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org" target="_blank">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner<br>
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <<a href="mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM<br>
<div><div><br>
(oh, and ps: probably native<br>
countries like the US and GB work very differently than<br>
non-native English countries. Here participate would<br>
definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would<br>
only be confusing. But that is probably stating the<br>
obvious)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2013/9/11 Lodewijk<br>
<<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org" target="_blank">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
I think there are two major factors in our<br>
image count: <br>
1) new participants, people who never edited<br>
before. 2) super uploaders, people with more<br>
than 100 images<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The highest contribution to the number of images<br>
is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of<br>
images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany.<br>
The banner has primarily an influence on 1),<br>
which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a<br>
change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that<br>
coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly<br>
situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In<br>
some other countries, there are more banners competing even<br>
(like in NL, a conference banner with call for<br>
speakers). <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Another way than the wording, is the<br>
design. <br>
I would suggest we continue this 'what is the<br>
best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep<br>
it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for<br>
that? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Lodewijk<br>
<br>
2013/9/11 Michael<br>
Maggs <<a href="mailto:Michael@maggs.name" target="_blank">Michael@maggs.name</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Both <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Snap a snapshot for<br>
Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves<br>
Monuments"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
are the best I<br>
have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as<br>
the US. Maybe have them both running at 50%<br>
?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41,<br>
Peter Ekman wrote:<br>
I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted<br>
in the last few days. It's fairly important to<br>
determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be<br>
something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation<br>
in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner<br>
display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop<br>
happen in most countries? We don't have full control<br>
over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space<br>
with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some<br>
of their displays if we ask nicely.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I do agree that changing the banner from<br>
time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of<br>
""Participate<br>
in the world's largest photo-contest and<br>
help Wikipedia,"<br>
would help any. The imperative verb<br>
"Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to<br>
American English speakers. It suggests a high school home<br>
economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies<br>
to the annual bake-off. Something more active is<br>
definitely needed, something along the line (but not<br>
exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out<br>
there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get<br>
some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of<br>
attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g.<br>
"About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type)<br>
upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Snap"<br>
might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the<br>
action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike<br>
"participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic<br>
site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or<br>
maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun<br>
"It's a snap, Wiki Loves<br>
Monuments"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I don't<br>
think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner,<br>
but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up<br>
with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound<br>
bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or<br>
dialects should be considered separately, as translations<br>
are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might<br>
mean something entirely different in British<br>
English<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div> PeteUser:Smallbones<br>
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