<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for your responses, and help at settling down issue on Commons.<br><br>Let's hope that we won't get lot of tehcnical issues, because of this.<br><br><br></div><div>Best,<br>Xelgen<br></div>
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1. Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country contests<br>
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2. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country<br>
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3. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country<br>
contests on same file (Maarten Dammers)<br>
4. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:35:42 +0400<br>
From: Aleksey Chalabyan <<a href="mailto:xelgen.am@gmail.com">xelgen.am@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of<br>
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Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM<br>
contest.<br>
<br>
If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest, with<br>
different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?<br>
<br>
Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign necessary<br>
categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?<br>
<br>
Example of such image is:<br>
<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg</a><br>
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Thanks beforehand,<br>
Xelgen<br>
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:42:11 +0200<br>
From: Lodewijk <<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of<br>
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Hi Xelgen,<br>
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last year we had a few of those situations (on the border between two<br>
countries, i.e. Estonia/Russia). It is not very common though, and I expect<br>
also this year it will be an exception.<br>
<br>
Last year the bots etc didn't explode, but they might just skip part of the<br>
categorization (for example, only consider the first template they see, or<br>
the last one). You may have to do a little more manual work in those cases.<br>
<br>
The voting tool is based on category input, so as long as you put it in the<br>
right country categories, it should work.<br>
<br>
Lodewijk (not very technical, so just explaining to the extent he thinks to<br>
understand)<br>
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2013/9/16 Aleksey Chalabyan <<a href="mailto:xelgen.am@gmail.com">xelgen.am@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM<br>
> contest.<br>
><br>
> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest, with<br>
> different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?<br>
><br>
> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign necessary<br>
> categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?<br>
><br>
> Example of such image is:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg</a><br>
><br>
> Thanks beforehand,<br>
> Xelgen<br>
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:36:26 +0200<br>
From: Maarten Dammers <<a href="mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl">maarten@mdammers.nl</a>><br>
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Hi Aleksey,<br>
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Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:<br>
> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running<br>
> WLM contest.<br>
><br>
> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest,<br>
> with different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?<br>
><br>
> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign<br>
> necessary categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?<br>
For the tools under<br>
<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database</a> it's no<br>
problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I just<br>
reverted the move of<br>
<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia</a><br>
<br>
It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing<br>
templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's<br>
noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user<br>
caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.<br>
<br>
Maarten<br>
<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:58:24 +0200<br>
From: Lodewijk <<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>><br>
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition<br>
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Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of<br>
different country contests on same file<br>
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I'm guessing this is about the Nagorno-Kabarakh region, which is by some<br>
considered to be an independent republic, and by some part of Azerbaijan.<br>
<br>
Please note: WLM is based on the monument definitions. If two countries<br>
recognized a building as monument, we use both recognitions, it is in both<br>
lists and the picture can participate in both contests. There is no need to<br>
/choose/ one. There might be a few slight technical inconveniences, but<br>
that shouldn't be a reason to start reverting each other or removing<br>
templates.<br>
<br>
Lodewijk<br>
<br>
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2013/9/16 Maarten Dammers <<a href="mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl">maarten@mdammers.nl</a>><br>
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> Hi Aleksey,<br>
><br>
> Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:<br>
><br>
> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM<br>
>> contest.<br>
>><br>
>> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest, with<br>
>> different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?<br>
>><br>
>> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign necessary<br>
>> categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?<br>
>><br>
> For the tools under <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/**" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/**</a><br>
> wiki/Commons:Monuments_**database<<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database</a>>it's no problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I<br>
> just reverted the move of <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/**" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/**</a><br>
> wiki/Template:Cultural_**Heritage_Armenia<<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia</a>><br>
><br>
> It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing<br>
> templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's<br>
> noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user<br>
> caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.<br>
><br>
> Maarten<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:02:46 +0200<br>
From: Ole Palnatoke Andersen <<a href="mailto:ole@palnatoke.org">ole@palnatoke.org</a>><br>
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I have now given that image both templates and both sets of categories,<br>
which promptly caused a warning from Multichill :-)<br>
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regards,<br>
Ole<br>
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Lodewijk <<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>>wrote:<br>
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> I'm guessing this is about the Nagorno-Kabarakh region, which is by some<br>
> considered to be an independent republic, and by some part of Azerbaijan.<br>
><br>
> Please note: WLM is based on the monument definitions. If two countries<br>
> recognized a building as monument, we use both recognitions, it is in both<br>
> lists and the picture can participate in both contests. There is no need to<br>
> /choose/ one. There might be a few slight technical inconveniences, but<br>
> that shouldn't be a reason to start reverting each other or removing<br>
> templates.<br>
><br>
> Lodewijk<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/9/16 Maarten Dammers <<a href="mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl">maarten@mdammers.nl</a>><br>
><br>
>> Hi Aleksey,<br>
>><br>
>> Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM<br>
>>> contest.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest,<br>
>>> with different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign<br>
>>> necessary categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?<br>
>>><br>
>> For the tools under <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/**" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/**</a><br>
>> wiki/Commons:Monuments_**database<<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database</a>>it's no problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I<br>
>> just reverted the move of <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/**" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/**</a><br>
>> wiki/Template:Cultural_**Heritage_Armenia<<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia</a>><br>
>><br>
>> It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing<br>
>> templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's<br>
>> noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user<br>
>> caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.<br>
>><br>
>> Maarten<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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