<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:45 AM, User Mono <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:usermono@outlook.com" target="_blank">usermono@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">We are sharing with the privacy policy right now. There's probably no flexibility there - the WMF really likes its silly banners. Like anyone in the public actually <i>cares</i> about our privacy policy - Facebook's is the only one that matters to anyone.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not to be too contrarian, but this is arguably exactly why the Privacy Policy discussion is important. We're one of the few large web properties where users care about it -- <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy">over 40,000 words of discussion</a> so far and we're only a week into the 4 month review.</div>
<div><br></div><div>:)</div><div><br></div><div>The Privacy Policy banners will be coming down in 4 days.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted in the last few days. It's fairly important to determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be something totally outside of our control,</div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't know if my personal story means anything, but last year I was so excited about the novelty of the competition, I took and uploaded a lot more photos than I did this year. Some of the buzz wore off. I still haven't uploaded a single photo this year, though I have a few hundred that need to get up before the contest finishes. I think there still might be a big rush at the end that will compensate for the current lull.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"> e.g. the situation in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop happen in most countries? We don't have full control over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some of their displays if we ask nicely.<div>
<br></div><div>I do agree that changing the banner from time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">"Participate in the world's largest photo-contest and help </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">Wikipedia," would help any. The imperative verb "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to American English speakers. It suggests a high school home economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies to the annual bake-off. Something more active is definitely needed, something along the line (but not exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">"Snap" might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun "It's a snap, Wiki Loves Monuments"</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">I don't think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or dialects should be considered separately, as translations are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might mean something entirely different in British English</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">Pete</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">User:Smallbones</span></div>
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